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Re: brake pads and brake lines

To: kas kastner <kaskas@cox.net>
Subject: Re: brake pads and brake lines
From: Bob Bownes <bownes@seiri.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:04:44 -0500
Just to clarify, when I said "all brake lines are braided stainless, I 
meant "all flexible brake lines".



kas kastner wrote:

> When we built up the Vitesse for the Trans-Am series we thought we were
> being brilliant running all stainless braided hose even on the long runs to
> the back.  Never could get  a decent brake pedal.  Finally after two
> practice sessions of terrible brakes went back in and replaced all the long
> runs with regular steel lines and the brakes became wonderful.  The
> stainless can't cope  with the line pressure. So all we were doing was
> puffing up the line but not doing much to move the brakes cylinders. .
> After that, is was my practice to make the braided lines on the brake system
> as short as possible. I believe all the regular hard brake lines are just
> mild steel.  Works though.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Babcock" <BillB@bnj.com>
> To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" <mjb@autox.team.net>; <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:59 AM
> Subject: RE: brake pads and brake lines
> 
> 
> 
>>I don't think so, and the cost is fairly high for something that is not
>>really as safe or that performs as well as hard lines in long runs. I
>>tried it and didn't like it. I also find it awfully easy to chafe or
>>otherwise damage stainless braided lines.
>>
>>I don't think conventional brake lines are stainless steel. It's hard to
>>form a flare in stainless and I doubt it could be done with the simple
>>double flare hand tools. I did a lot of stainless steel piping in my nuke
>>days. We used gland nuts, not flares. Of course it was thick wall, and
>>that might have something to do with it. The hand-bendable hard lines
>>appear to be composite--perhaps even a tube inside a tube.
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mark J Bradakis [mailto:mjb@autox.team.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:08 PM
>>To: fot@autox.team.net
>>Subject: Re: brake pads and brake lines
>>
>>
>>
>>> All brake lines are braided stainless.
>>>
>>Is using teflon covered with stainless braid for long runs along the frame
>>and such better than using rigid stainless tubing?  Of course, now I'm
>>wondering if the hard lines I put in Killer's brake system really are
>>stainless.  Hmm.
>>
>>mjb.

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