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Re: [Roadsters] !966 1600 Brake Master Cylinder help

To: Linda <ljordan704@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] !966 1600 Brake Master Cylinder help
From: Krismon Ongbongan via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 09:46:57 -0800
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I have a 510 master in mine, but I have a 69 w/dual reservoir. Weren't the
66 single reservoir?

Kris.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Linda via Datsun-roadsters <
datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Karp's is great for brake cylinders too.
> What was approx cost for rsleeving brake cylinder?
> I got a 510 master with an adapter per 311 list years ago, works great.
> LindaOn Mar 7, 2016 4:10 PM, Charles Hubbard via Datsun-roadsters <
> datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > Mick,
> >
> >
> >
> > I would have it sleeved in stainless steel and rebuild it.  This is a
> more permanent fix. These cars sit for long periods of time.  The
> combination of a steel piston with an aluminum cylinder is a recipe for
>  corrosion.  I decided that it's a waste of money to buy new cylinders when
> the OEM is a bad design.  Put the master in a vice, apply some heat with a
> propane torch to the outside and use a large screw driver twist the
> cylinder until it breaks free.  If it's locked up tight, spray rust eater
> into it and let it soak overnight.  Once it is broken free and moving, you
> may be able to get it out with some needle-nose vice grips and a lot of
> patience.  Smacking it onto a block of wood can also get it loose and
> moving.  You can also try compressed air to blow it out, but be VERY
> careful to point it toward a foam pad or something soft, as it can and
> probably will come out like a bullet.
> >
> >
> >
> > I used Karps Power Brake Service for all of my wheel cylinders and they
> did an excellent job.  Here is their URL:  http://www.karpspowerbrake.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > A little patience will pay off.  Good luck!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> >
> >
> > Charlie Hubbard
> >
> > 1964 SPL310 Fairlady
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Datsun-roadsters [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of David Patten via Datsun-roadsters
> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 9:24 AM
> > Cc: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] !966 1600 Brake Master Cylinder help
> >
> >
> >
> > Mick,
> >
> > You may be able to use an aftermarket racing master cylinder from
> someone like Wilwood or Tilton Engineering as a replacement. These can be
> bought in multiple sizes.
> >
> >
> >
> > These have a 3/8" thread x 3/16" line with an inverted flare for the
> brake line connection and a 2.25" bolt spacing (typical of most vertical
> Datsun 2 bolt patterns masters), so it should bolt to the firewall with
> little effort. You may need to come up with a new clevis arrangement to
> attach it to the pedal.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just a possible option.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Patten, Owner
> >
> > FutoFab, LLC
> >
> > 199 Stark Hwy So
> >
> > Dunbarton, NH 03046-4411
> >
> >
> >
> > www.FutoFab.com
> >
> > email - FutoFab@gsinet.net
> >
> > Telephone - (603) 774-6964
> >
> > Facebook - FutoFab LLC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > To: "mick hayes" <mickatliverpooltile@gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 7:40:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] !966 1600 Brake Master Cylinder help
> >
> >
> >
> > Mick,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd check with Les at Classic Datsun or one of the other usual suspects
> regarding the M/C, but I suspect substituting isn't an easy option. Check
> the vendor section of 311s.org for a list. AFAIK, Ross is still in
> business.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regarding making your own hard lines, there may be some threads in the
> 311s.org forums about that, and there are definitely a lot of generic
> sites on the web. Just remember the Roadsters used SAE fittings, not metric.
> >
> >
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 8:33 PM, mick hayes via Datsun-roadsters <
> datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Great forum
> >>
> >> Can i buy a brake master cylinder from another car, that fits my 1600?.
> Or, does anyone have one to sell?. The current unit a Girling 70 has
> seized. Also, any good articles on making your own brake lines, would be
> good.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My 1600, is 50 years old. I have owned it for 17 years, but have known
> it for 25 years. In all that time i have only driven it twice. I am
> determined to get her on the road this year, so any help, would be
> grateful.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Major parts needed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Low windshield...expensive
> >>
> >> Gasket kits
> >>
> >> fuel sender unit
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Is, Ross Mullen Sport/Imports out of Vancouver still in business?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have a 510 master in mine, but I have a 69 w/dual reserv=
oir. Weren&#39;t the 66 single reservoir?<div><br></div><div>Kris.</div></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 8,=
 2016 at 7:27 AM, Linda via Datsun-roadsters <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">datsun-roadst=
ers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
Karp&#39;s is great for brake cylinders too.<br>
What was approx cost for rsleeving brake cylinder?<br>
I got a 510 master with an adapter per 311 list years ago, works great.<br>
<div><div class=3D"h5">LindaOn Mar 7, 2016 4:10 PM, Charles Hubbard via Dat=
sun-roadsters &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net";>datsun=
-roadsters@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Mick,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I would have it sleeved in stainless steel and rebuild it.=C2=A0 This =
is a more permanent fix. These cars sit for long periods of time.=C2=A0 The=
 combination of a steel piston with an aluminum cylinder is a recipe for =
=C2=A0corrosion.=C2=A0 I decided that it&#39;s a waste of money to buy new =
cylinders when the OEM is a bad design.=C2=A0 Put the master in a vice, app=
ly some heat with a propane torch to the outside and use a large screw driv=
er twist the cylinder until it breaks free.=C2=A0 If it&#39;s locked up tig=
ht, spray rust eater into it and let it soak overnight.=C2=A0 Once it is br=
oken free and moving, you may be able to get it out with some needle-nose v=
ice grips and a lot of patience.=C2=A0 Smacking it onto a block of wood can=
 also get it loose and moving.=C2=A0 You can also try compressed air to blo=
w it out, but be VERY careful to point it toward a foam pad or something so=
ft, as it can and probably will come out like a bullet.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I used Karps Power Brake Service for all of my wheel cylinders and the=
y did an excellent job.=C2=A0 Here is their URL: =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://ww=
w.karpspowerbrake.com/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.kar=
pspowerbrake.com/</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A little patience will pay off.=C2=A0 Good luck!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Respectfully,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Charlie Hubbard<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1964 SPL310 Fairlady<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; From: Datsun-roadsters [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters-boun=
ces@autox.team.net">datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf =
Of David Patten via Datsun-roadsters<br>
&gt; Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 9:24 AM<br>
&gt; Cc: Datsun Roadster List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.=
team.net">datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [Roadsters] !966 1600 Brake Master Cylinder help<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Mick,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You may be able to use an aftermarket racing master cylinder from some=
one like Wilwood or Tilton Engineering as a replacement. These can be bough=
t in multiple sizes.=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; These have a=C2=A03/8&quot; thread=C2=A0x=C2=A03/16&quot; line with an=
 inverted flare for the brake line connection and a 2.25&quot; bolt spacing=
 (typical of=C2=A0most vertical Datsun 2 bolt patterns masters), so it=C2=
=A0should bolt to the firewall with little effort. You may need to come up =
with a new clevis arrangement to attach it to the pedal.=C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Just a possible option.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Dave Patten, Owner<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; FutoFab, LLC<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 199 Stark Hwy So<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Dunbarton, NH 03046-4411<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.FutoFab.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">www.FutoFab.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; email - <a href=3D"mailto:FutoFab@gsinet.net";>FutoFab@gsinet.net</a><b=
r>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Telephone - <a href=3D"tel:%28603%29%20774-6964" value=3D"+16037746964=
">(603) 774-6964</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Facebook - FutoFab LLC<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ________________________________<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; From: &quot;Datsun Roadster List&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:datsun-ro=
adsters@autox.team.net">datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; To: &quot;mick hayes&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mickatliverpooltile@g=
mail.com">mickatliverpooltile@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Cc: &quot;Datsun Roadster List&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:datsun-road=
sters@autox.team.net">datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 7:40:11 AM<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [Roadsters] !966 1600 Brake Master Cylinder help<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Mick,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;d check with Les at Classic Datsun or one of the other usual sus=
pects regarding the M/C, but I suspect substituting isn&#39;t an easy optio=
n.=C2=A0Check the vendor section of <a href=3D"http://311s.org"; rel=3D"nore=
ferrer" target=3D"_blank">311s.org</a> for a list. AFAIK, Ross is still in =
business.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Regarding making your own hard lines, there may be some threads in the=
 <a href=3D"http://311s.org"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">311s.org<=
/a> forums about that, and there are definitely a lot of generic sites on t=
he web. Just remember the Roadsters used SAE fittings, not metric.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; HTH,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ron<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
</div></div><span class=3D"">&gt; On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 8:33 PM, mick haye=
s via Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.ne=
t">datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Great forum<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Can i buy a brake master cylinder from another car, that fits my 1=
600?. Or, does anyone have one to sell?. The current unit a Girling 70 has =
seized. Also, any good articles on making your own brake lines, would be go=
od.=C2=A0<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; My 1600, is 50 years old. I have owned it for 17 years, but have k=
nown it for 25 years. In all that time i have only driven it twice. I am de=
termined to get her on the road this year, so any help, would be grateful.=
=C2=A0<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Major parts needed<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Low windshield...expensive<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Gasket kits<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
</span>&gt;&gt; fuel sender unit<br>
<span class=3D"">&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Is, Ross Mullen Sport/Imports out of Vancouver still in business?<=
br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Thanks<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Mick<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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