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To: "Graeme S." <graemes@internode.on.net>, "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1500 Radiator Cap.
From: Roy Haslett via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:46:36 +0000 (UTC)
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I had the same issue on my 67 1600.=C2=A0 Problem was not anything to do wi=
th radiator or cap. (I run stock cap).=C2=A0 Problem was head gasket.=C2=A0=
 Exhaust gas getting into the coolant and over pressurizing the system, pum=
ping the coolant out of the overflow tank and eventually overheating.=C2=A0=
 I had my head cleaned up, used a hi quality gasket and sprayed everything =
with copper coat before reassembly.=C2=A0 Problem solved and car has never =
overheated or run hot since.Good Luck.Roy H.

      From: Graeme S. via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net=
>
 To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net=20
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 5:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1500 Radiator Cap.
  =20
 Been through this recently.
 My cooling system and engine are all fully reconditioned and I have no ove=
rheating problem, BUT, it was belching coolant just the same.
 Now, bear in mind the early cars were designed for a low pressure 7psi[50k=
pa], non-recovery type system.
 The cap is not easily converted to a high pressure13psi[90kpa], you have t=
o swap the neck of the radiator to get the new cap to work properly.
 Low pressure cap uses a long neck, high pressure cap uses a short neck.
 All the research I did showed that there is no long neck high pressure cap=
 :(
 My Radiator Shop advised to retain the low pressure system because that wa=
s what it is designed for: what the weak link is I know not!
 Anyhoo, I decided to fit a blanking cap to the radiator and plumbed in a p=
ressurised aluminium recovery tank from the radiator overflow connection, u=
sing a low pressure long neck recovery cap [7psi], on the tank.
 Works a treat and if you didn't look between the front cross member and th=
e radiator core, you would never know :)
 The system can burp all it wants but it is able to syphon it back in to th=
e radiator.
 I posted some pics. on the 311s.org site, have a look here: -
http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3D3&t=3D23012&hilit=3Drecovery+t=
ank
 The final version is at the end of the posts.
=20
 Regards,
Graeme S.

nissanman.shutterfly.com=20

On 4/04/2015 09:07, Charles Hubbard via Datsun-roadsters wrote:
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  =C2=A0My 1964 SPL310 (1500) =C2=A0has run hot since day one. It has a fai=
rly pristine 3-row radiator core. =C2=A0I live in the Dallas Texas, area, a=
nd =C2=A0it gets pretty hot around here. =C2=A0The stock idiot gauge steadi=
ly pegs on the highway at about 65 mph. =C2=A0I put an after market gauge i=
n which showed the temperature close to 290 deg. =C2=A0Slowing down to 55 M=
PH brings the temperature down but it still runs at 275deg. =C2=A0After run=
ning around town and turning the motor off, it often blows most of the cool=
ant from the upper tank through the overflow tube. =C2=A0It often vapor loc=
ks after it gets turned off. =C2=A0I took my radiator to the local old scho=
ol radiator guru today. He did a flow test and it was fine. =C2=A0However, =
he noticed that my cap was pretty week. =C2=A0He thinks my stock cap may on=
ly be a 3-4lb cap and suggested that I purchase a 12 lb cap. =C2=A0. =C2=A0=
He's thinking that that my roadster may be continuously be losing coolant w=
hen it gets pressurised and allows air into the system, which makes the car=
 run even hotter. =C2=A0A tighter cap would hold coolant better and help th=
e cooling. =C2=A0The temperature would stay lower, even under more pressure=
. The stock radiator caps are not exactly growing on trees, so getting a 12=
 lb cap to give it a try may not be obtainable. =C2=A0The radiator shop say=
s they can put a new cap assembly o the unit, but I hate doing that before =
I even know if it will solve my issue. =C2=A0Does anyone know a source for =
a 12lb cap that will fit a 1500 radiator? =C2=A0Feedback from those in the =
know would be appreciated.=20
  .Charlie Hubbard  Flower Mound, TX
 cehubbard@verizon.net =20
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lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr">I had the same issue on my 67 1600.&nbsp; Pr=
oblem was not anything to do with radiator or cap. (I run stock cap).&nbsp;=
 Problem was head gasket.&nbsp; Exhaust gas getting into the coolant and ov=
er pressurizing the system, pumping the coolant out of the overflow tank an=
d eventually overheating.&nbsp; I had my head cleaned up, used a hi quality=
 gasket and sprayed everything with copper coat before reassembly.&nbsp; Pr=
oblem solved and car has never overheated or run hot since.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Good Luck.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Roy H.<br></div><div><span></span=
></div><br>  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428334357143_25163" style=3D"font-fam=
ily: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-s=
erif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428334357143_25162" style=
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_25160" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Fro=
m:</span></b> Graeme S. via Datsun-roadsters &lt;datsun-roadsters@autox.tea=
m.net&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> datsun-r=
oadsters@autox.team.net <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</s=
pan></b> Friday, April 3, 2015 5:03 PM<br> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428334357=
143_25159"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428334357143_25158" style=3D"font-weig=
ht: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Roadsters] 1500 Radiator Cap.<br> </fon=
t> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428334357143_25165" class=3D"y_msg_conta=
iner"><br><div id=3D"yiv2028746839"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428334357143_2=
5164">
    Been through this recently.<br clear=3D"none">
    My cooling system and engine are all fully reconditioned and I have
    no overheating problem, BUT, it was belching coolant just the same.<br =
clear=3D"none">
    Now, bear in mind the early cars were designed for a low pressure
    7psi[50kpa], non-recovery type system.<br clear=3D"none">
    The cap is not easily converted to a high pressure13psi[90kpa], you
    have to swap the neck of the radiator to get the new cap to work
    properly.<br clear=3D"none">
    Low pressure cap uses a long neck, high pressure cap uses a short
    neck.<br clear=3D"none">
    All the research I did showed that there is no long neck high
    pressure cap :(<br clear=3D"none">
    My Radiator Shop advised to retain the low pressure system because
    that was what it is designed for: what the weak link is I know not!<br =
clear=3D"none">
    Anyhoo, I decided to fit a blanking cap to the radiator and plumbed
    in a pressurised aluminium recovery tank from the radiator overflow
    connection, using a low pressure long neck recovery cap [7psi], on
    the tank.<br clear=3D"none">
    Works a treat and if you didn't look between the front cross member
    and the radiator core, you would never know :)<br clear=3D"none">
    The system can burp all it wants but it is able to syphon it back in
    to the radiator.<br clear=3D"none">
    I posted some pics. on the 311s.org site, have a look here: -<br clear=
=3D"none">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2028746839moz-txt-link-freet=
ext" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=
=3D3&amp;t=3D23012&amp;hilit=3Drecovery+tank">http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/vi=
ewtopic.php?f=3D3&amp;t=3D23012&amp;hilit=3Drecovery+tank</a><br clear=3D"n=
one">
    The final version is at the end of the posts.<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <pre class=3D"yiv2028746839moz-signature">Regards,
Graeme S.

nissanman.shutterfly.com</pre>
    <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv2028746839y=
qt0969977704" id=3D"yiv2028746839yqt66309"><div class=3D"yiv2028746839moz-c=
ite-prefix">On 4/04/2015 09:07, Charles Hubbard via
      Datsun-roadsters wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:rgb(0, 0, 0);FONT-SIZE:12px;">
        <div>&nbsp;My 1964 SPL310 (1500) &nbsp;has run hot since day one. I=
t has a
          fairly pristine 3-row radiator core. &nbsp;I live in the Dallas
          Texas, area, and &nbsp;it gets pretty hot around here. &nbsp;The =
stock
          idiot gauge steadily pegs on the highway at about 65 mph. &nbsp;I
          put an after market gauge in which showed the temperature
          close to 290 deg. &nbsp;Slowing down to 55 MPH brings the
          temperature down but it still runs at 275deg. &nbsp;After running
          around town and turning the motor off, it often blows most of
          the coolant from the upper tank through the overflow tube. &nbsp;=
It
          often vapor locks after it gets turned off. &nbsp;I took my
          radiator to the local old school radiator guru today. He did a
          flow test and it was fine. &nbsp;However, he noticed that my cap
          was pretty week. &nbsp;He thinks my stock cap may only be a 3-4lb
          cap and suggested that I purchase a 12 lb cap. &nbsp;. &nbsp;He's
          thinking that that my roadster may be continuously be losing
          coolant when it gets pressurised and allows air into the
          system, which makes the car run even hotter. &nbsp;A tighter cap
          would hold coolant better and help the cooling. &nbsp;The
          temperature would stay lower, even under more pressure. The
          stock radiator caps are not exactly growing on trees, so
          getting a 12 lb cap to give it a try may not be obtainable.
          &nbsp;The radiator shop says they can put a new cap assembly o th=
e
          unit, but I hate doing that before I even know if it will
          solve my issue. &nbsp;Does anyone know a source for a 12lb cap th=
at
          will fit a 1500 radiator? &nbsp;Feedback from those in the know
          would be appreciated.</div>
        <div><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div>.<span style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;">Charlie
            Hubbard</span></div>
        <span>
          </span><div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:rgb(0, 0, 0);FONT-SI=
ZE:12px;">Flower Mound, TX<br clear=3D"none">
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