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Re: drano?

To: shifty@shiftco.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: drano?
From: JOHNSOF@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 04:14:04 EST
Drano does indeed include an awful lot of sodium hydroxide, which is part of 
the reason it sinks down to the bottom where the clog is and also why it 
dissolves the organics (slime and hair) that is plugging the drain.  It will 
most 
certainly strip paint over time but it shouldn't hurt the plastic badges with 
some limited exposure.  I don't know for certain what plastic is used to make 
the badges but I wouldn't be too awfully suprised if it was some sort of PVC, 
as it is easy to mold and holds the electroless nickel (chrome) and paint well; 
PVC will hold up to NaOH fine with the limited exposure but will become 
brittle over time as the plasicizers are leached out.  The sodium hypochlorite 
(bleach) is no real problem, but the "surfactants" - as mentioned, really 
detergents - could be a problem, but again with limited exposure shouldn't be a 
problem.  The silicates add weight to the solution (so it sinks) and also helps 
"scrub" the surfaces being cleaned.  Chemically this stuff isn't that active at 
room-type temperatures; when it goes down the drain and sinks to a clog it 
starts to exotherm (generate heat) as the NaOH reacts with the water and this 
heat 
accelerates the dissolving process and voila! the clog opens up.  Without the 
water to react with and the subsequent heating it'd just kinda sit there and 
react very slowly.

But it really wouldn't be very nice to take a "bucket" of Drano, strip a 
bunch of paint and grease in it, and then dump it down the toilet!  The 
question 
is; what are you going to do with it when you're finished?  Enviromentally it'd 
be a lot nicer to send the parts to someone professional with a real 
wastewater treatment system where the stripping solution would at least be 
neutralized 
prior to discharge.

Fred "chemical geek" J.
WI (well, Germany right now)
'69 2000
'64 1500

"Results not typical, milage may vary, etc etc etc..."  In other words, I 
don't KNOW that the plastic is PVC, it could be a polystyrene-type material or 
something like that, in which case it would dissolve much more rapidly in the 
NaOH-based solutions.  If you're desparate to try it, put some on the back of a 
badge where it wouldn't be noticable if it damaged it!






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