Phil, Bristol is nice, I wonder if there is a track anywhere where we
could go play?
Mike Faggart
68 2L
SEROC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hall, Phillip" <phillip.hall@msfc.nasa.gov>
To: <datsunroadsters@egroups.com>; "Roadsters (E-mail)"
<Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 3:13 PM
Subject: [datsunroadsters] ALL DATSUN! (long)
> Hey Chris and all -
>
> No flames here. On the East Coast event - I have been talking to
Paul Kort,
> and the guys at MADROC about setting something up next year. The TN
town of
> Bristol has come up as an "in between" place to meet. Also, the
first of
> June seems to be agreeing with everyone's schedule. I would very
much
> welcome your thoughts so we can get this ironed out the first of the
year.
> SEROC will work very hard to make this happen!!!
>
> We at SEROC welcome all Datsuns. There is not one Roadster owner
that would
> not love to have a Z or 510. I would say that we open the East
Coast event
> to all Datsuns. I feel that if we can get the East Coast event
underway
> with all Datsuns, like Shasta, then the possibilities of a National
Datsun
> Rally is much closer. As is an all Datsun magazine and National
club. Some
> Z car owners might not like Roadsters, but I think most appreciate
our cars
> as much as we like the Z. If we show we can be united and ignore
people
> that are disruptive in nature, we can help to get all Datsuns
together.
>
> All the ROCs across this country (world) would love to get together.
The
> logistics of this is hard, but a National Rally is doable. A
National
> Registry is well under way (thanks to Roman Rist and Mark Dent) and
should
> be pushed for more participation. I am as guilty at the rest for
not
> pushing this harder. With the registry we have essentially started
the
> National Roadster club, which then could be incorporated into a
National
> Datsun club and event. I don't know the workings of
starting/publishing a
> magazine, but as we get closer to a National Datsun movement,
someone that
> is in the right position to start a magazine will step forward. The
guys
> against it will be left hanging.
>
> I have been on this list for a year and it is wonderful!!!! But
like Chris
> said, lets get together - clubs, vendors, owners. The Roadster
people are
> GREAT and if we act as ambassadors of all Datsun cars we can make a
> difference - people will come to us! I congratulate Mike, Doug,
Calspeed,
> and others for "crossing the fence" - we all need to do more of
this.
> Remember - we are DATSUN then ROADSTER, DATSUN then 510, DATSUN then
Z.
>
> Sorry for the ranting - must be the snowy, cold nonRoadstering
weather.
>
> Phil
> SEROC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Orocrodstr@aol.com [SMTP:Orocrodstr@aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 7:55 AM
> To: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net;
> datsunroadsters@egroups.com
> Subject: [datsunroadsters] Sport Z, Zdriver soapbox Long!
>
> At the risk of fanning the flames I have decided to comment on this
> and the
> state of the datsun community.
>
> Sport Z: Why would you ignore a market that would expand your
> subscriber base
> with only a slight change in format? There are several writers out
> there who
> have done Roadster and 510 articles. It wouldn't take much to put
> them in the
> magazine.
> This magazine E-mailed me at the club web site to ask about writers.
> I did
> put him in touch with some. I also indicated my support for the
> magazine. I
> have heard nothing about the mag. until the posts on the lists. As
> head of a
> 90+ members club, I can get the word out about these things yet I
> seem to
> have been ignored!
>
> Zdriver.com: An article was written about our Mid Ohio Vintage event
> in June.
> I invited the author to the party that OROC sponsored and arranged
> for a ride
> during the parade laps. The article didn't even get the club name
> correct!
>
> I have made several attempts over the last few years to organize
> and/or
> support a National Datsun community. These actions have resulted in
> a
> bombardment of negative e-mails and very little support. Others that
> have
> tried to do the same thing have gotten the same results. There is
> constant
> arguing about this or that. There is no community! We are
> fragmented and
> heading in different directions.
>
> ZCCD: My wife and I did everything we possibly could to help Mark
> make this a
> success. He came from with in. He is a Datsun nut like the rest of
> us. This
> magazine was probably doomed from the time he took it over due to
> poor
> business practices by the previous owners. My hats off the Mark for
> his HUGE
> sacrifice to try and make it go!
>
> I will support any national or east coast event that we can. We
> certainly
> make sure the our club members know about everything. If we want
> support from
> Nissan lets get together on it. The other vendors that support
> Datsuns are
> not getting rich from this. Each time you purchase something for
> your vehicle
> you make a choice where to spend the money. How long can our vendors
> stay in
> business if we don't spend money with them when we can. If we want a
> magazine
> to cover more than Z's lets get together on it. If we want the
> respect we
> deserve from other car marques we have to present our selves better!
>
>
> I am sorry for being so long winded but I tired of the talk and no
> action.
> Yes, I am an opinionated sob but those that have need around me know
> that
> when something needs done I WILL get it done. We must come together
> on all of
> these issues! If we expect the support of magazines and vendors so
> we can
> continue to enjoy Datsuns, they must know that WE will support them.
> Not
> everything is perfect but if you don't participate in making them
> better you
> have no right to complain!
>
> I'm off my soap box know.
> Body armor is on.
>
> Chris Luers
> OROC
>
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