Mike,
You aren't a Nascar fan, are you. Bristol Raceway is there! It is an oval
(sigh.)
Sid
>From: "Mike Faggart" <mikef@carolina.rr.com>
>Reply-To: "Mike Faggart" <mikef@carolina.rr.com>
>To: <datsunroadsters@egroups.com>, "Roadsters \(E-mail\)"
><Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [datsunroadsters] ALL DATSUN! (long)
>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:11:36 -0500
>
>Phil, Bristol is nice, I wonder if there is a track anywhere where we
>could go play?
>
>Mike Faggart
>68 2L
>SEROC
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Hall, Phillip" <phillip.hall@msfc.nasa.gov>
>To: <datsunroadsters@egroups.com>; "Roadsters (E-mail)"
><Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 3:13 PM
>Subject: [datsunroadsters] ALL DATSUN! (long)
>
>
> > Hey Chris and all -
> >
> > No flames here. On the East Coast event - I have been talking to
>Paul Kort,
> > and the guys at MADROC about setting something up next year. The TN
>town of
> > Bristol has come up as an "in between" place to meet. Also, the
>first of
> > June seems to be agreeing with everyone's schedule. I would very
>much
> > welcome your thoughts so we can get this ironed out the first of the
>year.
> > SEROC will work very hard to make this happen!!!
> >
> > We at SEROC welcome all Datsuns. There is not one Roadster owner
>that would
> > not love to have a Z or 510. I would say that we open the East
>Coast event
> > to all Datsuns. I feel that if we can get the East Coast event
>underway
> > with all Datsuns, like Shasta, then the possibilities of a National
>Datsun
> > Rally is much closer. As is an all Datsun magazine and National
>club. Some
> > Z car owners might not like Roadsters, but I think most appreciate
>our cars
> > as much as we like the Z. If we show we can be united and ignore
>people
> > that are disruptive in nature, we can help to get all Datsuns
>together.
> >
> > All the ROCs across this country (world) would love to get together.
>The
> > logistics of this is hard, but a National Rally is doable. A
>National
> > Registry is well under way (thanks to Roman Rist and Mark Dent) and
>should
> > be pushed for more participation. I am as guilty at the rest for
>not
> > pushing this harder. With the registry we have essentially started
>the
> > National Roadster club, which then could be incorporated into a
>National
> > Datsun club and event. I don't know the workings of
>starting/publishing a
> > magazine, but as we get closer to a National Datsun movement,
>someone that
> > is in the right position to start a magazine will step forward. The
>guys
> > against it will be left hanging.
> >
> > I have been on this list for a year and it is wonderful!!!! But
>like Chris
> > said, lets get together - clubs, vendors, owners. The Roadster
>people are
> > GREAT and if we act as ambassadors of all Datsun cars we can make a
> > difference - people will come to us! I congratulate Mike, Doug,
>Calspeed,
> > and others for "crossing the fence" - we all need to do more of
>this.
> > Remember - we are DATSUN then ROADSTER, DATSUN then 510, DATSUN then
>Z.
> >
> > Sorry for the ranting - must be the snowy, cold nonRoadstering
>weather.
> >
> > Phil
> > SEROC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Orocrodstr@aol.com [SMTP:Orocrodstr@aol.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 7:55 AM
> > To: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net;
> > datsunroadsters@egroups.com
> > Subject: [datsunroadsters] Sport Z, Zdriver soapbox Long!
> >
> > At the risk of fanning the flames I have decided to comment on this
> > and the
> > state of the datsun community.
> >
> > Sport Z: Why would you ignore a market that would expand your
> > subscriber base
> > with only a slight change in format? There are several writers out
> > there who
> > have done Roadster and 510 articles. It wouldn't take much to put
> > them in the
> > magazine.
> > This magazine E-mailed me at the club web site to ask about writers.
> > I did
> > put him in touch with some. I also indicated my support for the
> > magazine. I
> > have heard nothing about the mag. until the posts on the lists. As
> > head of a
> > 90+ members club, I can get the word out about these things yet I
> > seem to
> > have been ignored!
> >
> > Zdriver.com: An article was written about our Mid Ohio Vintage event
> > in June.
> > I invited the author to the party that OROC sponsored and arranged
> > for a ride
> > during the parade laps. The article didn't even get the club name
> > correct!
> >
> > I have made several attempts over the last few years to organize
> > and/or
> > support a National Datsun community. These actions have resulted in
> > a
> > bombardment of negative e-mails and very little support. Others that
> > have
> > tried to do the same thing have gotten the same results. There is
> > constant
> > arguing about this or that. There is no community! We are
> > fragmented and
> > heading in different directions.
> >
> > ZCCD: My wife and I did everything we possibly could to help Mark
> > make this a
> > success. He came from with in. He is a Datsun nut like the rest of
> > us. This
> > magazine was probably doomed from the time he took it over due to
> > poor
> > business practices by the previous owners. My hats off the Mark for
> > his HUGE
> > sacrifice to try and make it go!
> >
> > I will support any national or east coast event that we can. We
> > certainly
> > make sure the our club members know about everything. If we want
> > support from
> > Nissan lets get together on it. The other vendors that support
> > Datsuns are
> > not getting rich from this. Each time you purchase something for
> > your vehicle
> > you make a choice where to spend the money. How long can our vendors
> > stay in
> > business if we don't spend money with them when we can. If we want a
> > magazine
> > to cover more than Z's lets get together on it. If we want the
> > respect we
> > deserve from other car marques we have to present our selves better!
> >
> >
> > I am sorry for being so long winded but I tired of the talk and no
> > action.
> > Yes, I am an opinionated sob but those that have need around me know
> > that
> > when something needs done I WILL get it done. We must come together
> > on all of
> > these issues! If we expect the support of magazines and vendors so
> > we can
> > continue to enjoy Datsuns, they must know that WE will support them.
> > Not
> > everything is perfect but if you don't participate in making them
> > better you
> > have no right to complain!
> >
> > I'm off my soap box know.
> > Body armor is on.
> >
> > Chris Luers
> > OROC
> >
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