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Re: Fwd: Understeering a-rama

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Subject: Re: Fwd: Understeering a-rama
From: Gordon Glasgow <glasgow@serv.net>
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 19:48:42 -0700
That's only for driving in Seattle, in which case LSD stands for Limited-Slop 
Differential.

CarterCM@aol.com wrote:

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> In a message dated 5/5/00 7:16:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, CarterCM writes:
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> << you get underwater when initiating a turn >> s/b understeer!
>
> Sorry, no, Gordon wasn't talking about a submarine (damn auto spellchecker).
>
> Craig
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> In a message dated 5/5/00 6:29:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, glasgow@serv.net
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> << What's probably happening is that the LSD is set on the tight side? When
> that happens, you get underwater when initiating a turn, particularly at low
> speed. >>
>
> Right...plus the LSD friction disks get glazed and "grabby" over time and
> with lower speed driving, making it worse. Try "conditioning" the LSD by
> going to parking lot. Stop and crank wheel hard left and hold it. Drive in a
> tight circle for 10-15 revolutions @ slow speed. Repeat for right turn. LSD
> should be working better.
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> Craig Carter
> Fountain Valley, CA
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> 1968 SRL DP Racecars
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> It probably has nothing to do with the bump stops. They would only come into 
>play if you were
> already in a turn and had major lateral G's going, to the point where the 
>body roll allowed the
> frame and bump stops to meet.
>
> What's probably happening is that the LSD is set on the tight side. When that 
>happens, you get
> understeer when initiating a turn, particularly at low speed. Try this test. 
>Find a flat parking lot
> someplace, put the car in neutral with the handbrake off, turn the steering 
>wheel a goodly ways
> over, and try to push the car by hand. If it feels like the handbrake is 
>still set, that's the LSD.
>
> About the only way to do a donut with that setup is to start the turn slowly, 
>stuff in the clutch,
> bring up the revs and dump the clutch. You should get a pretty good 
>snap-spin. Not recommended for
> parts longevity, though. Ring and pinions and LSD's are pretty spendy items. 
>Better leave that stuff
> to the CART guys.
>
> Daniel Neuman wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >         I forgot to tell you guys that the other night when I was
> > in the rather questionable part of town I tried to do a couple of
> > donuts in a big fourway intersection(at night in an'industrial' neighborhood
> > with no-one else around for miles).  I could not do it??  The car was under
> > steering so badly that it couldn't stay in the intersection.. I almost
> > hit a curb.
> >         Now Iknwo that it understeers because I have the 4.11LSD and I
> > cut the rear bumpstops down to the improved street version (from Bob
> > Sharps manual) but have not yet touched the front bumpstops.. Should I
> > go with the improved street profile or jsut go with the racing
> > 'to increase oversteer' profile??  Or should I jsut do one and if it
> > still oversteers just go withthe more radical racing profile??
> >
> >                 Daniel 69 2000
> >                 SF CA
> >
>
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> Gordon Glasgow
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