I support the notion that if there are people out there scamming the people
on this list, with ripoff tactics, we owe it to each other to post what the
transaction was, and the parties involved so that another unsuspecting naive
member will not fall victim to an unscrupulous deal. That will make this a
better organization in the long run. Pat
From: jawalker@zcentral.com <jawalker@zcentral.com>
To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Roadster Fraud!
>Maybe i'm the only one here ... but i'm NOT a complete expert on roadsters.
I
>DON'T have my own personal parts source and i HAVEN'T dealt with all the
>suppliers on the list. whereas i've never had a bad experience with a
supplier
>or anyone else on the list, it doesn't mean that i wouldn't want to take
the
>advice of other, more experienced roadster owners.
>
>after all, that's what the list is for, isn't it? an informative mailing
list
>such as this exists so that we, as a group, may learn from the mistakes of
each
>of the members on the list.
>
>i'm not advocating the creation of a "black list" filled with suppliers
that
>are deemed "bad". i do, however, think that it's important to know where
others
>have had trouble in the past and then decide for ourselves whether or not
we
>want to deal with these allegedly fraudulent roadster suppliers.
>
>that felt more like a nickel
>
>jOn Walker
>69 2000
>
>
>
>
>Quoting Marc Sayer <msayer1@concentric.net>:
>
>> > out them on the list so we all know.
>> >
>> > time is money. who wants to waste it.
>>
>> If we allow this are we also going to allow folks to make comments about
>> the customers they've had over the years that say, put a stop payment on
>> a check tendered for goods or services received, or special ordered
>> something and then refused to pay for it? What about the customer who
>> goes from one company to another, orders stuff and/or services and then
>> weasels out of paying for it by accusing (falsely) the business of
>> failing to provide satisfactory service? (yes there is at least one of
>> those on this list) What about customers who bounce checks, or who's
>> credit cards are declined? Can I start bad mouthing my writers when they
>> miss a deadline and cause the magazine to be late? (and no Barrie and
>> Tom have never done that:-) At what point does this all step out of the
>> realm of Roadsters? And do we really want this list to become a soapbox
>> for people with an axe to grind, or to become a kangaroo court. As it
>> stands now if someone has something derogatory to say about an
>> individual or business they can post a note to the list saying I had a
>> bad experience with someone doing xyz, if you want to know more email me
>> directly. Or as the original poster did, they can post asking if anyone
>> else has had similar experiences. This gets the info out to those who
>> care. It lets those of us who know better ignore the people we know
>> simply have an axe to grind, and it prevents the list from becoming a
>> kangaroo court.
>>
>> --
>> Marc Sayer
>> Editor/Publisher
>> Z Car & Classic Datsun Magazine
>> http://zcarmag.com
>> Voice 541-726-6001
>> Fax 541-746-0863/726-6001
>>
>
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