Colin,
I didn't expect you to recognize all of the suppliers I mentioned since many are
Healey or Spridget suppliers and I surmise that you are not an owner of one of
these
vehicles, and none are boutique suppliers like VB or Moss. Sure a few are very
small,
but most on the list are regular viable suppliers with a history. Your comment
regarding the "individuals" is unfounded. If you don't know Joe Curto, maybe
your
cars don't have SU's.
Nisonger bought by Moss? If you say so, I will take it as fact. That's news to
me. I
haven't dealt with them in a couple of years.
I knew you would criticize my comment about stockpiling parts. I don't expect
restitution for anything I stockpile, but with regard to your comment about
inspections, it is not possible to inspect a Sprite gearbox with disassembling
the
box.
In the past, I returned many substandard and unacceptable parts to Moss and
received
full refunds. Now I just don't order from them and don't have to worry about
the buy,
curse, return process.
I'm bowing out of this thread. I think it's run it's course.
If you're happy shopping at Moss, fine. I'm not and I think that the responses
from
other listers and defenses offered by Kelvin as to why they should continue to
offer
inferior parts are weak at best.
Jay Fishbein
Colin Cobb wrote:
> Hey Jay,
>
> Since I don't recognize most of the suppliers you list on your OK list I
> conclude they are eeensy-beeensy houses... Even some individuals which is by
> far the riskiest way to buy.
>
> Since I see Nisonger on your OK list I conclude this whole rant against Moss
> must be a joke since I think that Nisonger IS Moss so how can Nisonger be
> superior to Moss? Sort of "I'm my own Grandpa..."
>
> I don't really see the basis for a complaint if you choose to stockpile
> something for a few years and then find it is the wrong part or of poor
> quality. We need to open those boxes upon receipt and inspect that
> pig-in-a-poke...
>
> I don't know of any supplier that claims to offer EVERYTHING for the cars
> they specialize in.
>
> But my main point was/is the folks you have to tell about inferior quality
> is the seller. Frankly, if you don't do that you don't have much basis for
> your complaint. And when you do have a problem with a major supplier there
> is generally recourse available to you.
>
> Cheers!
>
> --Colin Cobb, Las Cruces, NM, USA
> '41 Chevrolet Coupe, '65 Sunbeam Tiger, '66 Morgan Plus Four, '89 Alfa Romeo
> Spider
>
> ----------
> >From: type79@ix.netcom.com
> >To: Colin Cobb <cobmeister@zianet.com>
> >Cc: British Cars List <british-cars@autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Re: Shoddy parts, slippery suppliers, mute consumers
> >Date: Thu, Jun 29, 2000, 3:01 PM
> >
>
> >Colin,
> >I don't know where to begin.
> >
> >This is like the discussion about where to buy building products in which one
> >person says they like Lowe's better than Home Depot. VB? Moss? What's the
> >difference?
> >
> >I would buy from, or have bought from:
> >Seven Enterprises,
> >Mini Mania,
> >Mini City,
> >TS Imported Parts,
> >European Midtown,
> >Just Brits,
> >Peter Caldwell,
> >Motorhead,
> >Sprite-Midget Centre,
> >Britpart,
> >Joe Curto,
> >Rhode Island Wiring Service Inc.,
> >Healey Surgeons,
> >Martin J. MacGregor Coachtrimming LTD.,
> >Abingdon Spares,
> >Nisonger,
> >Winners Circle,
> >Faspec,
> >Austin-Healey Spares Ltd.,
> >University Motors,
> >
> >I have good experience with all of these suppliers and consider each
>superior to
> >Moss.
> >
> >I agree that Moss is good at returns, credits, and refunds. I just don't
>like to
> >have to analyze a part I am going to order to try to figure out what 10
> >questions I need to ask to make a determination if its real, repro, good
>repro,
> >bad repro or just plain junk.
> >
> >I think I also have the same problem as many other enthusiasts:
> >1) I might order parts to stockpile for for the big cahuna restoration
>project
> >which might not actually go into reassembly for another year at which time I
>am
> >beyond the return period, or
> >
> >2) I need the part NOW and the if it is an unacceptable/poor quality repro,
>the
> >fact they are great with returns doesn't mean much if my car is down in the
> >meantime.
> >
> >My biggest gripe with these large suppliers is that they create the illusion
> >that they offer EVERYTHING for the cars that they specialize in and don't
>have
> >any disclaimers regarding the origins or quality of certain items.
> >
> >Jay Fishbein
> >Wallingford, CT
> >1963 Austin-Healey Sprite
> >1961 Innocenti 950
> >1963 Innocenti S
> >1987 Westfield/Lotus 7
> >
> >
> >
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