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Re: AMC parts; proportioning valve, etc.

To: bricklin@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: AMC parts; proportioning valve, etc.
From: "Seth" <sbunin@cablespeed.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 19:09:26 -0400
You need to be careful changing prop/combo valves. Since the brick has 
disc/drum, you need a combo valve (prop and meter). The metering slows down the 
inital apply rate of the disc brakes since inherently disc brakes apply faster 
than drums do to the engagement distance drums require. Getting the metering 
right is important, but not as critical as getting the proportioning right. The 
prop valve has two distinct parameters when sizing them, the slope and knee 
point. The knee point is the point at which the ratio goes from 1:1 to the 
slope ratio. The brake configuration (caliper size, rotor effective diameter, 
lining material, etc) and vehicle weight distribution will determine your Z 
critical (the vehicle deceleration at which your vehicle goes from front biased 
to rear biased). Typically, a brake system is designed to be inherently rear 
biased (for parking brake effectiveness and failed systems and such) so a prop 
valve is used to move the bias to as close to neutral as possible for all 
loadings while remaining slightly front biased. So, trying to cut to the chase, 
changing your prop to an aftermarket can cause you to be rear biased which 
caused worse brake performance and can cause the vehicle to oversteer since the 
rear wheels will lock before the front ones. An aftermarket prop can also cause 
you to be front biased which is safer because it doesn't induce oversteer, but 
it still decreases overall potential braking. That's why the prop for the Brick 
is unique. As a side note, most new vehicles don't have a prop valve because 
they have ABS. ABS can electronically control the rear pressure and does a 
better job, giving a neutral bias for all loading conditions.

Seth
ABS/TC/Stability Control Vehicle Development Engineer
#1544



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On 4/7/2004 at 3:13 AM High Tech Coatings wrote:

>try  www.mpbrakes.com they have valves, boosters and masters as well as
>disc
>kits for hotrods etc.




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