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RE: FFR in AP

To: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@comcast.net>,
Subject: RE: FFR in AP
From: "Escano, Arnold (MP)" <aescano@guidant.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:02:24 -0700
Is there a way to have a AP split Class? like by liters? APo (over)APu (under)
and have each split class have their own classified rules?

arnold

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Kelly [mailto:lollipop487@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:21 AM
To: James Creasy; charles cox; ba-autox
Subject: Re: FFR in AP


Actually, no. There are two P classes where real 7s can run, AP and a 
heavily ballasted (your words) version in DP. Wetfields, Locost, etc. clones
can run in D or E Mod along with Lotus 7s. According to the rulebook Lotus
7s can also run in ASP (without the hp that can be developed in P & M), and
C Stockm, again with maybe 42hp. (as delivered new, that's what the spec hp
is).
Last year at the Solo 2 nats, there were only two real Lotus 7s, one in DM
(and now sold to a vintage racer), and ours in DP.
--Pat Kelly

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>From: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>
>To: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@comcast.net>, "Charles Cox"
<charles@coastalbay.com>, "ba-autox" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: FFR in AP
>Date: Wed, Jul 23, 2003, 9:17 AM
>

> i think there is (or i remember seeing) also a general rule that replicas
> run in the class of the original.  we are limited by the dimensions and
> specs of the old-school cobras.  that goes for the 7 replicas as well, yes?
>
> james
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@comcast.net>
> To: "Charles Cox" <charles@coastalbay.com>; "ba-autox"
> <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: FFR in AP
>
>
>> A strong lobby usually works, and that's probably how the FFR Cobra got
> into
>> AP. Real Cobras are classed in AP, and putting the FFR Cobras, along with
>> tubeframe Sunbeam Tigers, may help save the class (AP) which is most
> clearly
>> a class for high-powered cars.
>> --Pat K
>>
>> ----------
>> >From: "Charles Cox" <charles@coastalbay.com>
>> >To: "ba-autox" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>> >Subject: Re: FFR in AP
>> >Date: Wed, Jul 23, 2003, 6:36 AM
>> >
>>
>> > Maybe they could add a ca-jillion pounds, mandate smaller wheels and run
> in
>> > DP. It works for the Miata which is an AP car, right?
>> >
>> > Somehow I missed it. How did they get the FFR past the "Intent" rule of
> the
>> > cars having to be based on production cars produced in quantities of no
> less
>> > than 3000 within a 12 month period? I recall them having to be also
> approved
>> > by the EPA and DOT...seems to me the FFR should be a Modified anyway.
>> >
>> > From FF's own site:
>> > "Completed Cars and Dealers
>> > No way.  We are a parts and engineering company.  We don't sell cars.
> Our
>> > customer is the guy who will build this himself."
>> >
>> > Not listed in the book as a Prepared car either...I obviously haven't
> been
>> > paying attention...
>> >
>> > Charles Cox
>> >
>> >> Actually, there are some cars running in AP with smaller engines,
> probably
>> >> only one, a Lotus Elan driven by a father and son team from San Diego.
> I
>> >> guess they'd go to D Mod?
>> >> --Pat Kelly

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