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RE: M3 BHP?

To: "'lollipop@ricochet.net'" <lollipop@ricochet.net>,
Subject: RE: M3 BHP?
From: Kirk Meline <KMeline@iscribe.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 09:27:35 -0800
Pat

I have been waiting four years for the AOD to blow even though my car only
has 205 horses to deal with.  Maybe a touch more.  Definitely not as much as
an M3.  Thanks for the advice though.

Kirk





-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Kelly [mailto:lollipop@ricochet.net]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 4:21 PM
To: Kirk Meline
Cc: 'Jim Ochi'; navid@interwoven.com; ba-autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: M3 BHP?


Putting too much power through the drivetrain, Kirk? :-) Watch those
U-joints, too.
--Pat Kelly

Kirk Meline wrote:
> 
> Jim
> 
> No harm meant.  I was just doing some trash talking.  If you say it is
> making that much power so be it.  It is extremely hard to believe though.
I
> really don't care if it is making 350 horsepower.  It is an evil M3
anyway.
> Evil in the sense that a person can make mistakes and still get a great
time
> in it.  In my car one mistake adds seconds to the time or worse.  By the
> way, my car's tranny died and will probably stay that way for awhile.
> 
> Merry Christmas
> Kirk
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Ochi [mailto:jochi@ricochet.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 2:12 PM
> To: Kirk Meline; navid@interwoven.com; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: M3 BHP?
> 
> No, Kirk, that's the truth.  Can't get that much extra power out of an M3
> without doing stuff that's not SP legal.  Probably the highest power
> normally aspirated M3 that I've heard of had an engine built by TC Kline
in
> it - he was putting out around 275-285 HP at the flywheel.  Remember, this
> isn't the euro engine which puts out 321HP - the US model uses a bored and
> stroked motor out of the 325/328.  So, it's pretty much tweaked as much as
> it can be from the factory.  Common mods only get the 95 engine up to
> around 255-265hp, and do even worse with the 96+ 3.2L engine.
> 
> Do some homework before you start calling people liars.  Give TC Kline a
> call, or check out their website (http://www.tcklineracing.com.  Or call
> Turner Motorsports (http://www.turnermotorsports.com) - there are even
some
> dyno charts on their website.  These are two of the top BMW tuners in the
> US - ask them how much power they can get out of a SP legal M3.
> 
> Tell you what.  If you think I'm lying, we'll put my car on a dyno.  If
> it's making more than 270, I'll pay the dyno fee.  If it isn't, you pay
> it.  I'm sure Navid would be willing to do the same.  I think you could
> even get Kit to do the same, too.  Results to be posted in a public forum.
> 
> Sheesh.
> 
> Jim
> 
> At 01:25 PM 12/22/2000 -0800, Kirk Meline wrote:
> >Jim and Navid:
> >
> >You guys must think that we are all stupid.  All those changes just to
get
> a
> >few more horses.  Give us all a break and just be honest.  You already
win
> >ESP outright.  There is no need to be outright dishonest.
> >
> >Kirk
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jim Ochi [mailto:jochi@ricochet.net]
> >Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 12:30 PM
> >To: Barry Spencer; navid@interwoven.com; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> >Subject: RE: M3 BHP?
> >
> >
> >I keep telling Navid that putting a Midas muffler on his M3 doesn't count
> >as a performance mod no matter how large of a tip he puts on it, but he
> >just doesn't listen!  Taping magnets onto his throttle body doesn't add
> >anything, nor does putting on all those stickers...
> >
> >Anyway, I believe it's 240 at the flywheel, something like 205 at the
rear
> >wheels stock.  Common mods on a 95 (intake, chip, air flow meter,
exhaust)
> >get you to around 265 at the flywheel, 225 at the rear wheels...
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >At 12:25 PM 12/22/2000 -0800, Barry Spencer wrote:
> > >How come you lose 15 after mods?.
> > >
> > >At 12:00 PM 12/22/00 -0800, Navid Kahangi wrote:
> > > >Not enough!  240 stock, 225 after mods.  :)
> > > >
> > > >--Navid
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > > > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Barry Spencer
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 11:40 AM
> > > > > To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > > > Subject: M3 BHP?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To all,
> > > > >      How much BHP does a 1995 BMW M3 have?.
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Barry

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