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Re: M3 BHP?

To: Kirk Meline <KMeline@iscribe.com>
Subject: Re: M3 BHP?
From: "Steven J. Sherwood" <ssher@home.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 18:07:29 -0800
Navid, Corey, Sharon, Peter Mottaz, and a bunch of other
autocrossers, road racers, and cart people have been sorta
quenching our racing withdrawls at Speedring.  Damn...I
did three 12 minute sessions today and now my right bicep
hurts so much I can even hold a phone in it.

Merry Christmas everyone.

Steve

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Kirk Meline wrote:
> 
> I think its just the racing withdrawals and holiday shopping that's freaking
> me out.  Thanks for the comic relief Steve.
> 
> Kirk
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven J. Sherwood [mailto:ssher@home.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 2:35 PM
> To: Jim Ochi
> Cc: Kirk Meline; navid@interwoven.com; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: M3 BHP?
> 
> You guys gotta chill on this...it is the holiday season...be
> kind to all men and all that stuff.
> 
> BTW Jim, I know you got 325 bhp at the flywheel....I just
> know it. :-P
> 
> STeve
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++
> 
> Jim Ochi wrote:
> >
> > No, Kirk, that's the truth.  Can't get that much extra power out of an M3
> > without doing stuff that's not SP legal.  Probably the highest power
> > normally aspirated M3 that I've heard of had an engine built by TC Kline
> in
> > it - he was putting out around 275-285 HP at the flywheel.  Remember, this
> > isn't the euro engine which puts out 321HP - the US model uses a bored and
> > stroked motor out of the 325/328.  So, it's pretty much tweaked as much as
> > it can be from the factory.  Common mods only get the 95 engine up to
> > around 255-265hp, and do even worse with the 96+ 3.2L engine.
> >
> > Do some homework before you start calling people liars.  Give TC Kline a
> > call, or check out their website (http://www.tcklineracing.com.  Or call
> > Turner Motorsports (http://www.turnermotorsports.com) - there are even
> some
> > dyno charts on their website.  These are two of the top BMW tuners in the
> > US - ask them how much power they can get out of a SP legal M3.
> >
> > Tell you what.  If you think I'm lying, we'll put my car on a dyno.  If
> > it's making more than 270, I'll pay the dyno fee.  If it isn't, you pay
> > it.  I'm sure Navid would be willing to do the same.  I think you could
> > even get Kit to do the same, too.  Results to be posted in a public forum.
> >
> > Sheesh.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > At 01:25 PM 12/22/2000 -0800, Kirk Meline wrote:
> > >Jim and Navid:
> > >
> > >You guys must think that we are all stupid.  All those changes just to
> get a
> > >few more horses.  Give us all a break and just be honest.  You already
> win
> > >ESP outright.  There is no need to be outright dishonest.
> > >
> > >Kirk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Jim Ochi [mailto:jochi@ricochet.net]
> > >Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 12:30 PM
> > >To: Barry Spencer; navid@interwoven.com; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > >Subject: RE: M3 BHP?
> > >
> > >
> > >I keep telling Navid that putting a Midas muffler on his M3 doesn't count
> > >as a performance mod no matter how large of a tip he puts on it, but he
> > >just doesn't listen!  Taping magnets onto his throttle body doesn't add
> > >anything, nor does putting on all those stickers...
> > >
> > >Anyway, I believe it's 240 at the flywheel, something like 205 at the
> rear
> > >wheels stock.  Common mods on a 95 (intake, chip, air flow meter,
> exhaust)
> > >get you to around 265 at the flywheel, 225 at the rear wheels...
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >
> > >At 12:25 PM 12/22/2000 -0800, Barry Spencer wrote:
> > > >How come you lose 15 after mods?.
> > > >
> > > >At 12:00 PM 12/22/00 -0800, Navid Kahangi wrote:
> > > > >Not enough!  240 stock, 225 after mods.  :)
> > > > >
> > > > >--Navid
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Barry Spencer
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 11:40 AM
> > > > > > To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > > > > Subject: M3 BHP?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To all,
> > > > > >      How much BHP does a 1995 BMW M3 have?.
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Barry

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