Sigh. How does one argue with this?
Any car enthsiast, that picks up & reads any
of the major, high circulation buff books knows
about SCCA.
For most mildly interested automobile competition
fans, they only know about Dale, Dale, Dale & Jeff -
and the Indy 500. Challenge them to identify the sanctioning
body for the 500, and not too many of those 300
can do that, either. Makes the IRL rather closeted too, eh?
And what in the world does this have to do with tire rules, Dan?
R2
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Bettis <140mhz24@isoc.net>
To: Roger Johnson <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>; <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: STS Tire Rules
> OK I just started a new job a few months ago. We have about 300 people
> there. Only one even knew the SCCA exist. The question I get when I say
I
> race, is what drag strip or circle track to you race that one. The SCCA
> has no marketing, no one knows it exist but us members and the people who
> got tired of it.
>
> Dan Bettis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>
> To: "Daniel Bettis" <140mhz24@isoc.net>; <autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 18:09
> Subject: Re: STS Tire Rules
>
>
> > I really don't like to repeat myself, and dislike
> > it when others messages are simply repetitions
> > of what has been said before:
> >
> > This HAS happened in the past. Ask any National
> > autocrosser that has been around for more than a
> > year or two. Various tire companies, over the years,
> > have seen great marketing benefit in wooing drivers
> > and winning Nationals. Millons have been spent
> > on advertisements touting wins in autocross competition.
> >
> > Yokohama began their entire approach to the North American
> > market with Solo II, then Club Racing. Kumho followed the
> > same approach. General, Bridgestone, Pirelli and Dunlop
> > have taken runs at the market.
> >
> > Secret Car Club is a myth. Kumar loves us.
> >
> > R2
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Daniel Bettis <140mhz24@isoc.net>
> > To: <autox@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 5:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: STS Tire Rules
> >
> >
> > > If could see a tire company making a special tire if there was any
real
> > > marketing appeal to saying your tire won a autox class. Half of no
one
> > > even know the SCCA exist, Secret Car Club of America maybe it should
> be
> > > called. Fact is what tire company out there really cares about
> > > autocrossing right now any at all? If it was not for club racing they
> > > probably not even make the tires for us to race on.. Autox is
probably
> > > like 10% of Hoosier, Kumar, of BFG total race tires sales.
> > >
> > > Dan Bettis
> > > 140MHZ24@isoc.net
> > > Predator Motorsport http://www.predatormotorsport.com
> > > 96 Miata R 4 CSP
> > > 92 Z24 24 SM best et 15.27@86.8mph 6.85 0-60
> > > 84 Z28 24 CP best et 13.74@99.45mph, for sale?
> > > http://fpw.isoc.net/140mhz24/
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>
> > > To: "William Loring" <bloring@tirerack.com>; <autox@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 14:41
> > > Subject: Re: STS Tire Rules
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It HAS happened - repeatedly. Sometimes for "a single class".
> > > > Name the manufacturer, and I will tell you what
> > > > they have done with DOT tires - even as recently as September 2000.
> > > >
> > > > In fact I can come up with a true story about every
> > > > manufacturer involved in the sport, except the
> > > > Indiana tire. . . . . and maybe I just don't know enough
> > > > about them yet! <ggg>
> > > >
> > > > R2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: William Loring <bloring@tirerack.com>
> > > > To: <autox@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 4:47 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: STS Tire Rules
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Are we seriously suggesting that the tire manufacturers would do
> this
> > > kind
> > > > > of thing for bragging rights for a single class??
> > > > >
> > > > > I find this hard to believe.
> > > > >
> > > > > I could understand it when applied to street tire rules for _all_
> the
> > > > stock
> > > > > classes, but that most assuredly is _not_ what we're talking about
> > > here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > William Loring
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: "Roger Johnson" <rjohnson@friendlynet.com>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: STS Tire Rules
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the rule-book changes come 12-24 months AFTER
> > > > > > the fact. After the tires have been run. After the win
> > > > > > ads have run. And after the damage is done.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > R2
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