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Re: Tiny bubbles...o...o....o....o.....o...

To: eric10mm@qni.com
Subject: Re: Tiny bubbles...o...o....o....o.....o...
From: Lloyd.Wilson@Alcan.Com
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:21:17 -0500 (EST)
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Eric,
 I have experienced the same problems with my car.  I run Motuls 
600 degree F brake fluid, Carbotech Kelated Metallic (Green) brake pads, 
front and rear.  I flush the brake system every year.  I have even replaced 
the bleeder screws and last year I replace the front calipers  But I still 
feel/need to bleed my brakes every 6 to 10 weeks, during the autocross 
season.  To me it is just a maintenance item.

As far as the Carbotech's, I sold on them.  They last at least year to maybe
two.  It all depends on how much you use the brakes.  They are easy on 
rotors too.  Dusting and noise is tolerable compared to the other brands I 
have tried (Hawk and Cool Carbon).  Also I paid less for Carbotechs 
than the other two.

I am sure other people will have their opinions but I am a Carbotech 
satisfied customer that is not likely going to change.


Lloyd Wilson 
100K Racing
93 Prelude VTEC
VTEC SPD





eric10mm@qni.com on 02/08/99 11:10:41 AM
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Subject: Tiny bubbles...o...o....o....o.....o...

Howdy all.

Am I the only one who experiences this?  I get a new car and the brake pedal
is wonderfully firm without the slightest bit of mush to it.  Several months
down the road I notice the pedal has gotten softer so I pay to get them bled
since the dealer says there's nothing wrong with them and "they're working
just as designed from the factory".  What a crock!!!!  (I don't think it's
just a matter of the pads finally bedding in properly.)

Anyway, once bled the brakes once again have that wonderful new firmer than
firm feeling (well, as firm as factory production Neon brakes can be) and
all is right in the world.

Another 3 months down the road the pedal has gone soft again.  Pay to have
them bled and they're wonderfully firm once more.

The brake shop whom I trust implicitly says that there's nothing wrong with
the brakes and the seals aren't leaking or sucking air in anywhere so what
gives?

Does brake fluid turn stale?  Do tiny bubbles magically appear and render
the fluid less than perfect?  Are there little gremlins lurking in my car
and trying to drive me nuts?  Hmm, that _would_ explain the voices I hear
when driving........

I do tend to use the brakes harder then most other street drivers.  I
absolutely love to dive deep into the local offramps (at just slightly
higher than legal speeds  ;^) and then jump on the binders hard at the last
minute.  No warped rotors, yet.

Also, any opinions on an excellent brake fluid to use in the Neons?  How
about aftermarket pads that would serve double duty as street pads and
autocross pads with no high speed track time.  I've considered the Carbotech
Kelated Metallic (Mean Green) pads?  Anybody have experience with them on
dual purpose cars?  How long do they tend to last?  I'd hate for a set of
pads that costs over $100 to not last even until the end of the race season.

Thanks for your patience.

See you on course.

Eric Linnhoff in KC
#69DS    TLS #13
'98 Neon R/T
<eric10mm@qni.com>

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A whole lotta sweat, a set of wheels.....On the Speedway.
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