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To: Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel pump rebuild - advice
From: Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 15:55:00 -0600
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I've always had good customer relations with Moss. Most recently I received
an MGB caliper that the fluid bleed port didn't get drilled! Got rectified
quickly.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 3:03 PM Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Well as usual, the 6-Pack list comes through with great advice!  You've
> convinced me - I'm going to convert to an electric pump.  It'll be a late
> January project most likely, as the car is currently in storage due to an
> overfilled garage here at home (but will be selling my '97 M3 soon I hope,
> and then the TR6 can come home).
>
> By the way - I called Moss today to tell them about the issue with the
> pump and my desire to return it, and they gave me a full refund (including
> refund of the shipping charge) no questions asked, and didn't even require
> me to send the defective unit back to them (largely because it has of
> course had gasoline passing through it and therefore could be troublesome
> to ship).  Now that's great service!!
>
> Again, your quick feedback is much appreciated - happy holidays all!
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 03:37:53 PM EST, Richard Lindsay <
> richardolindsay@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Agreed.
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 1:28 PM dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>
> +1 on the electric pump.  I like the Facet model; be sure to get pressure
> 2-4 psi, no more.  Do not get a mr gasket; they fail pretty quickly
>
>
>
> *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2020 8:55 AM
> *To:* Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com>; six pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [6pack] fuel pump rebuild - advice
>
>
>
> Tim,
>
> I know this issue has been talked about many times in the past but my
> advice is to replace the stock pump with a Facet or similar pump mounted
> close to the fuel tank. Remove the mechanical pump and replace with a
> blocking plate.
>
> I mounted a fuel regulator where the pump was on all my 3 Triumphs. The 4
> was done first well over 15 years ago and no problems. The 3 followed a
> year later and when I did my 72 6 it got the same treatment.
>
> All 3 have been flawless. No leaks, drips or errors! And when I turn on
> the ignition, the carbs are primed by the time I pull out the choke!
>
> Bob
>
> On 12/15/20 9:38 AM, Timothy Holbrook wrote:
>
> Hi fellow 6-Packers and happy holiday season to you all!!
>
>
>
> A few weeks back I discovered that the factory-original OE mechanical fuel
> pump on my TR6 was leaking fuel into the crank case - not a good
> situation!  I bought a rebuild kit but was shocked to learn that the ONE
> seal which isn't included/available is the crucial one which seals the
> "fuel stream" (that is, the part of the pump through which fuel passes)
> from the crank case.
>
>
>
> So, I then bought one of the "OE reproduction" pumps from Moss.  Looked
> very nice, has the manual priming lever, etc.  I fitted it to the car, took
> it for a drive, and thought "great, another job completed".  A few hours
> later I went into the garage and was hit with the strong smell of
> gasoline.  The BRAND NEW pump was leaking from the top cover, resulting in
> a big puddle of fuel under the car.  I've also determined that the manually
> priming lever doesn't function!!  Needless to say, the new pump is going in
> the trash.
>
>
>
> Question for all of you - can you recommend a company who does
> high-quality work rebuilding our OE mechanical fuel pumps?  I'm not
> interested in buying another reproduction from Moss.  I want to get my
> factory-original pump rebuilt and hopefully have it last another 50 years!!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Holbrook
>
> 1971 TR6
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ve always had good customer relations with Moss. Mo=
st recently I received an MGB caliper that the fluid bleed port didn&#39;t =
get drilled! Got rectified quickly.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 3:03 PM Timothy Ho=
lbrook &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tjh173@yahoo.com";>tjh173@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:=
Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"></div><div style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
        </div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans=
-serif;font-size:13px" dir=3D"ltr">Hi all,</div><div style=3D"font-family:H=
elvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:13px" dir=3D"ltr">Well as usual, the 6-Pack list comes through with =
great advice!=C2=A0 You&#39;ve convinced me - I&#39;m going to convert to a=
n electric pump.=C2=A0 It&#39;ll be a late January project most likely, as =
the car is currently in storage due to an overfilled garage here at home (b=
ut will be selling my &#39;97 M3 soon I hope, and then the TR6 can come hom=
e).</div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-seri=
f;font-size:13px" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica=
 Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" dir=3D"ltr">By the way - I=
 called Moss today to tell them about the issue with the pump and my desire=
 to return it, and they gave me a full refund (including refund of the ship=
ping charge) no questions asked, and didn&#39;t even require me to send the=
 defective unit back to them (largely because it has of course had gasoline=
 passing through it and therefore could be troublesome to ship).=C2=A0 Now =
that&#39;s great service!!</div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,He=
lvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" d=
ir=3D"ltr">Again, your quick feedback is much appreciated - happy holidays =
all!</div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-ser=
if;font-size:13px" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetic=
a Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" dir=3D"ltr">Regards,</div=
><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:13px" dir=3D"ltr">Tim</div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Hel=
vetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family=
:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
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                    On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 03:37:53 PM EST, Richard=
 Lindsay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer">richardolindsay@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"m_-2197750798312663827ydp60bb82dyiv39749732=
10"><div><div>Agreed.</div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div id=3D"m_-2197750798=
312663827ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210yqtfd99785"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 15=
, 2020, 1:28 PM dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; rel=3D"nofollo=
w noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br clear=3D"none"></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=3D"m_-219775079831266382=
7ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210yqtfd55730"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p>+1 on the e=
lectric pump.=C2=A0 I like the Facet model; be sure to get pressure 2-4 psi=
, no more.=C2=A0 Do not get a mr gasket; they fail pretty quickly<u></u><u>=
</u></p><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div style=3D"border-width:1pt medi=
um medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) curren=
tColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p><b>From:</b> 6pack &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">6pack-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Beha=
lf Of </b>Bob<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 15, 2020 8:5=
5 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Timothy Holbrook &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tj=
h173@yahoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank=
">tjh173@yahoo.com</a>&gt;; six pack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team=
.net" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">6pack@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] fuel pum=
p rebuild - advice<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=
<p>Tim,<u></u><u></u></p><p>I know this issue has been talked about many ti=
mes in the past but my advice is to replace the stock pump with a Facet or =
similar pump mounted close to the fuel tank. Remove the mechanical pump and=
 replace with a blocking plate. <u></u><u></u></p><p>I mounted a fuel regul=
ator where the pump was on all my 3 Triumphs. The 4 was done first well ove=
r 15 years ago and no problems. The 3 followed a year later and when I did =
my 72 6 it got the same treatment. <u></u><u></u></p><p>All 3 have been fla=
wless. No leaks, drips or errors! And when I turn on the ignition, the carb=
s are primed by the time I pull out the choke!<u></u><u></u></p><p>Bob<u></=
u><u></u></p><div><p>On 12/15/20 9:38 AM, Timothy Holbrook wrote:<u></u><u>=
</u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><d=
iv><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif">Hi fello=
w 6-Packers and happy holiday season to you all!!<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif">A few weeks back I discovered that the factory-original=
 OE mechanical fuel pump on my TR6 was leaking fuel into the crank case - n=
ot a good situation!=C2=A0 I bought a rebuild kit but was shocked to learn =
that the ONE seal which isn&#39;t included/available is the crucial one whi=
ch seals the &quot;fuel stream&quot; (that is, the part of the pump through=
 which fuel passes) from the crank case. =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></d=
iv><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif">So, I then bought one of the &quot;OE reproduction&quot;=
 pumps from Moss.=C2=A0 Looked very nice, has the manual priming lever, etc=
.=C2=A0 I fitted it to the car, took it for a drive, and thought &quot;grea=
t, another job completed&quot;.=C2=A0 A few hours later I went into the gar=
age and was hit with the strong smell of gasoline.=C2=A0 The BRAND NEW pump=
 was leaking from the top cover, resulting in a big puddle of fuel under th=
e car.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve also determined that the manually priming lever doesn=
&#39;t function!!=C2=A0 Needless to say, the new pump is going in the trash=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif">Question for all of you - ca=
n you recommend a company who does high-quality work rebuilding our OE mech=
anical fuel pumps?=C2=A0 I&#39;m not interested in buying another reproduct=
ion from Moss.=C2=A0 I want to get my factory-original pump rebuilt and hop=
efully have it last another 50 years!!<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:san=
s-serif">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif">Tim Holbrook<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif">1971 T=
R6<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
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