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Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel pump rebuild - advice
From: Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 21:03:26 +0000 (UTC)
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 Hi all,
Well as usual, the 6-Pack list comes through with great advice!=C2=A0 You'v=
e convinced me - I'm going to convert to an electric pump.=C2=A0 It'll be a=
 late January project most likely, as the car is currently in storage due t=
o an overfilled garage here at home (but will be selling my '97 M3 soon I h=
ope, and then the TR6 can come home).
By the way - I called Moss today to tell them about the issue with the pump=
 and my desire to return it, and they gave me a full refund (including refu=
nd of the shipping charge) no questions asked, and didn't even require me t=
o send the defective unit back to them (largely because it has of course ha=
d gasoline passing through it and therefore could be troublesome to ship).=
=C2=A0 Now that's great service!!
Again, your quick feedback is much appreciated - happy holidays all!
Regards,Tim
    On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 03:37:53 PM EST, Richard Lindsay <richar=
dolindsay@gmail.com> wrote: =20
=20
 Agreed.
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 1:28 PM dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:


+1 on the electric pump.=C2=A0 I like the Facet model; be sure to get press=
ure 2-4 psi, no more.=C2=A0 Do not get a mr gasket; they fail pretty quickl=
y

=C2=A0

From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 8:55 AM
To: Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com>; six pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] fuel pump rebuild - advice

=C2=A0

Tim,

I know this issue has been talked about many times in the past but my advic=
e is to replace the stock pump with a Facet or similar pump mounted close t=
o the fuel tank. Remove the mechanical pump and replace with a blocking pla=
te.=20

I mounted a fuel regulator where the pump was on all my 3 Triumphs. The 4 w=
as done first well over 15 years ago and no problems. The 3 followed a year=
 later and when I did my 72 6 it got the same treatment.=20

All 3 have been flawless. No leaks, drips or errors! And when I turn on the=
 ignition, the carbs are primed by the time I pull out the choke!

Bob

On 12/15/20 9:38 AM, Timothy Holbrook wrote:


Hi fellow 6-Packers and happy holiday season to you all!!

=C2=A0

A few weeks back I discovered that the factory-original OE mechanical fuel =
pump on my TR6 was leaking fuel into the crank case - not a good situation!=
=C2=A0 I bought a rebuild kit but was shocked to learn that the ONE seal wh=
ich isn't included/available is the crucial one which seals the "fuel strea=
m" (that is, the part of the pump through which fuel passes) from the crank=
 case. =C2=A0

=C2=A0

So, I then bought one of the "OE reproduction" pumps from Moss.=C2=A0 Looke=
d very nice, has the manual priming lever, etc.=C2=A0 I fitted it to the ca=
r, took it for a drive, and thought "great, another job completed".=C2=A0 A=
 few hours later I went into the garage and was hit with the strong smell o=
f gasoline.=C2=A0 The BRAND NEW pump was leaking from the top cover, result=
ing in a big puddle of fuel under the car.=C2=A0 I've also determined that =
the manually priming lever doesn't function!!=C2=A0 Needless to say, the ne=
w pump is going in the trash.

=C2=A0

Question for all of you - can you recommend a company who does high-quality=
 work rebuilding our OE mechanical fuel pumps?=C2=A0 I'm not interested in =
buying another reproduction from Moss.=C2=A0 I want to get my factory-origi=
nal pump rebuilt and hopefully have it last another 50 years!!

=C2=A0

Regards,

Tim Holbrook

1971 TR6




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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpdcbcb8f1yahoo-style-wrap" style=
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        </div><div class=3D"ydpdcbcb8f1yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" dir=3D"ltr=
" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi all,</div><div class=3D"ydpdcbcb8f1yahoo-style-w=
rap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font=
-size:13px;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div class=3D"ydpd=
cbcb8f1yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ar=
ial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Well as =
usual, the 6-Pack list comes through with great advice!&nbsp; You've convin=
ced me - I'm going to convert to an electric pump.&nbsp; It'll be a late Ja=
nuary project most likely, as the car is currently in storage due to an ove=
rfilled garage here at home (but will be selling my '97 M3 soon I hope, and=
 then the TR6 can come home).</div><div class=3D"ydpdcbcb8f1yahoo-style-wra=
p" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-s=
ize:13px;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div class=3D"ydpdcb=
cb8f1yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Aria=
l, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">By the way=
 - I called Moss today to tell them about the issue with the pump and my de=
sire to return it, and they gave me a full refund (including refund of the =
shipping charge) no questions asked, and didn't even require me to send the=
 defective unit back to them (largely because it has of course had gasoline=
 passing through it and therefore could be troublesome to ship).&nbsp; Now =
that's great service!!</div><div class=3D"ydpdcbcb8f1yahoo-style-wrap" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13p=
x;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div class=3D"ydpdcbcb8f1ya=
hoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans=
-serif;font-size:13px;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Again, your quick=
 feedback is much appreciated - happy holidays all!</div><div class=3D"ydpd=
cbcb8f1yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ar=
ial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></di=
v><div class=3D"ydpdcbcb8f1yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica=
 Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false">Regards,</div><div class=3D"ydpdcbcb8f1yahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px=
;" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Tim</div><div class=3D"ydpdcbcb8f1yaho=
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                    On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 03:37:53 PM EST, Richard=
 Lindsay &lt;richardolindsay@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210"><div><div>Agreed.<=
/div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210gmail_quote"><=
div class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210yqt9125786209" id=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv39749=
73210yqtfd99785"><div class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210gmail_attr" dir=3D"lt=
r">On Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 1:28 PM dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.co=
m" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">dave@ranteer.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div></div><blockquote class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3=
974973210gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210yqt9125786209" id=
=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210yqtfd55730"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"yd=
p60bb82dyiv3974973210m_-7848758668866378379WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydp60b=
b82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal">+1 on the electric pump.&nbsp; I like the Facet=
 model; be sure to get pressure 2-4 psi, no more.&nbsp; Do not get a mr gas=
ket; they fail pretty quickly<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv397=
4973210MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><div><div style=3D"border-width: =
1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 22=
5, 225) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ydp60=
bb82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> 6pack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6pack=
-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">=
6pack-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob<br clear=3D"no=
ne"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 15, 2020 8:55 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To=
:</b> Timothy Holbrook &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tjh173@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">tjh173@yahoo.com</a>&gt;; six pack &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
" shape=3D"rect">6pack@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: [6pack] fuel pump rebuild - advice<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p=
 class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p>Tim,=
<u></u><u></u></p><p>I know this issue has been talked about many times in =
the past but my advice is to replace the stock pump with a Facet or similar=
 pump mounted close to the fuel tank. Remove the mechanical pump and replac=
e with a blocking plate. <u></u><u></u></p><p>I mounted a fuel regulator wh=
ere the pump was on all my 3 Triumphs. The 4 was done first well over 15 ye=
ars ago and no problems. The 3 followed a year later and when I did my 72 6=
 it got the same treatment. <u></u><u></u></p><p>All 3 have been flawless. =
No leaks, drips or errors! And when I turn on the ignition, the carbs are p=
rimed by the time I pull out the choke!<u></u><u></u></p><p>Bob<u></u><u></=
u></p><div><p class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal">On 12/15/20 9:38 A=
M, Timothy Holbrook wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"marg=
in-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div><p class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv39749=
73210MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Hi=
 fellow 6-Packers and happy holiday season to you all!!<u></u><u></u></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">A few weeks back I discovered that=
 the factory-original OE mechanical fuel pump on my TR6 was leaking fuel in=
to the crank case - not a good situation!&nbsp; I bought a rebuild kit but =
was shocked to learn that the ONE seal which isn't included/available is th=
e crucial one which seals the "fuel stream" (that is, the part of the pump =
through which fuel passes) from the crank case. &nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">So, I then bought one of the "OE repr=
oduction" pumps from Moss.&nbsp; Looked very nice, has the manual priming l=
ever, etc.&nbsp; I fitted it to the car, took it for a drive, and thought "=
great, another job completed".&nbsp; A few hours later I went into the gara=
ge and was hit with the strong smell of gasoline.&nbsp; The BRAND NEW pump =
was leaking from the top cover, resulting in a big puddle of fuel under the=
 car.&nbsp; I've also determined that the manually priming lever doesn't fu=
nction!!&nbsp; Needless to say, the new pump is going in the trash.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Question for all of you =
- can you recommend a company who does high-quality work rebuilding our OE =
mechanical fuel pumps?&nbsp; I'm not interested in buying another reproduct=
ion from Moss.&nbsp; I want to get my factory-original pump rebuilt and hop=
efully have it last another 50 years!!<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:sans-serif;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
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=3D"ydp60bb82dyiv3974973210MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;">Tim Holbrook<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p clas=
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