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Re: [6pack] Torquing rod bolts

To: "Triumph 6 Pack" <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Torquing rod bolts
From: "John North" <johncnorth@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:45:55 -0400
To close this loop, I talked to the vendor who tested their supply and
found them defective.   Of course the vendor will make things right.
At this point I think I'll take Dick's suggestion and look over the
old ones - at least they kept things together before!!!

John

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Sally or Dick Taylor
<tr6taylor@webtv.net> wrote:
> John N.----Check the accuracy of the torque wrench by setting it at 45
>  lb. and fit a socket to  one of the wheel lug nuts. It should click well
>  before the nut further tightens.  You could also "practice" on a nut and
>  bolt in a bench vice.
>
>  Most of the time there's enough residual oil in the rod threads, so
>  leave the bolts clean and dry.  Compare their length to one of the known
>  old bolts.
>
>  Take a look at your old rod bolts. If they're not stretched (spin a nut
>  down to the root thread) re-use them. Also question the place that sold
>  you the new bolts, if the torque wrench checks out OK.
>
>  Run a tap down the rod threads to cut out any metal pickup. They'll
>  probably be allright, as deformation or stretching generally occurs in
>  areas where the threads are not captive. (Unless a bolt bottoms out)
>
>  Dick
>
>   From: johncnorth@gmail.com(John North)
>
>
>  These are new bolts.   I did oil the threads and the head.   However
>  the old bolts torqued up just fine using this method...   Not sure how
>  I'd clean the threads in the rods at this point...
>
>  John
>  On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Michael Porter <mdporter@dfn.com>
>  wrote:
>
>     John North wrote:
>      I have read that these bolts should be torqued in three
>  equal stages. Given the spec range of 38-46, I tried 20, 31 then 42. I
>  backed off
>  the nut between the three torques. I didn't have the guts to complete
>  the last one, because the bolt made at least two full turns after being
>  finger tight. When I removed the bolt, there is clear thinning in the
>  last 5 or so threads and the bolt has stretched .114.
>  I tried just torquing a bolt up to 40 and got about 1.5 full turns after
>  the bolt became finger tight before I ran out of courage again and
>  stopped. This one has stretched about .015, but did not torque up before
>  I gave up.
>  Does this sound right or should I suspect the bolts are not good? I am
>  real scared of shearing off a bolt in the rod...
>    Time for new bolts. If they've remained stretched after being
>  torqued, that means they've yielded.
>    The torques normally specified for a dry fit. If you lubricated
>  the hardware in any way, then they likely have been over-torqued.   If
>  you fitted them dry, then there's the real possibility that they
>  stretched during previous running or a previous installation.
>
>
>     Cheers.
>      --
>  Michael Porter
>  Roswell, NM
>  Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking
>  distance....
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