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RE: Holes in the frame

To: "Navarrette, Vance" <vance.navarrette@intel.com>, <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Holes in the frame
From: "Mark Hooper" <mhooper@digiscreen.ca>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:29:13 -0400
Hi Vance:

Quite right. In Montreal, they call that "weld a piece over the hole" process 
of frame repair "Plating". It is not legal here. 

I think the company (www.triumphworks.com) sells frame sections to replace the 
most commonly ruined parts. I did my own trailing-arm mount sections by 
replacing the entire area with a new section made of large angle iron and flat 
bar. Probably added 50 lbs onto the car, but that part isn't going to rust or 
deform again any time soon.

Cheers,

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-6pack@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-6pack@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Navarrette, Vance
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:17 AM
To: Ron Landis; 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Holes in the frame


        Ron:

        The right way to do this is to cut out the offending metal
completely, and replace it with 16 gauge steel. Welding a patch over the
top of the holes will accelerate the corrosion underneath the fresh
metal. This will eventually destroy the repair. While it will
temporarily strengthen the frame if competently done, a patch applied
over the top is bad news for the long term health of the frame.
        My concern would be that there is more extensive damage in other
places (t-shirt pressing, trailing arm frame members, etc) that would
make the car unsafe. Take a screwdriver and poke firmly at these and
other locations in the frame, and make sure that you have no other
damage. If this is indeed the only damage that you have, it sounds like
it can be repaired with the body on the frame. 
        Be warned however, that what occasionally happens is that there
is little if any metal in the surrounding areas that can be welded to.
Corrosion has often thinned the surrounding metal so much that any
attempt at welding simply blows through the metal. In this case you are
either looking at extensive frame off repairs, or simply swapping the
damaged frame for a healthy one from a donor vehicle. These are worst
case scenarios, however.

        Cheers,

        Vance

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-6pack@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-6pack@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Landis
Sent: April 04, 2005 6:29 AM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Holes in the frame

As I was crawling under my TR250 I have discovered holes in the frame. 
Most are on the botttom of the channel on the passenger side.  What is
the best way to fix these?  What thickness of metal?  Should I patch
individual holes or cut a long piece to cover them all?
 
Also thanks for the input on the distributor
 
Ron
 
Ron Landis PE
Kent County Department of Public Works
Director of Engineering Services
(616) 336-4370




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