Hi Jim,
I remember the problems I was having all to well. First I would like to
thank EVERYONE that helped me out, including you. In regards to your
comments about TSI's rockers, you never made a derogatory comment about
Ted's product. You were very helpful and did advise me to take any problems
I had up with Ted and to get back to you if I were still in need of help. I
do remember wishing I had bought yours in the first place though, it would
had saved me a lot of aggravation. TSI's rollers are good quality but they
do have a few issues that do need to be dealt with. They are NOT a simple
bolt on replacement and you are a bit on your own when you get them. These
issues should be relayed to the customer prior to purchasing.
As far as commercial use of the list, I welcome it. I want to know all
my options when looking to buy parts for my car, as long as things stay
civil.
Thanks again,
Nick Gemas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Swarthout" <jswarth1@tampabay.rr.com>
To: "'Nick Gemas'" <gln@worldpath.net>
Cc: "'6-Pack'" <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: TSI Rockers
> Nick,
>
> I hope you're still here!
>
> There is some question as to whether or not I made derogatory comments
> about Ted Schumakers' Roller Rockers when you were having trouble with
> your installation a while back.
>
> Being that you were in the forefront of this discussion I would really
> appreciate your impression of my comments.
>
> Barring the usual crap that I endure...and subsequently dish out...I'm
> certain I never once said anything unkind about Ted's products.
>
> If I have erred I will gladly apologize to Ted.
>
> I remember stating that, and have e-mails to support this:
>
> (1) Your rockers will work fine
>
> (2) wait until you can speak to the manufacturer.
>
> On list, or privately to you I did not suggest that you should have
> bought my rockers!
>
> A little birdie created a cloud of smoke...that had no benefit to the
> list what-so-ever.
>
>
> We had several...Off list conversations...this is one.
>
> Nick,
>
> In terms of the valve train geometry, the relative location of the valve
> tip is most important.
>
> I may be mistaken, but I assume from your post that you are trying to
> determine whether or not your valves are too long thus causing the
> problems with your rocker installation. The overall valve length will
> not provide a conclusive answer if you have had any sort of extensive
> valve, (head), work done prior to assembly. I will be glad to elaborate
> if this seems misleading.
>
> Assuming that the valve spring land area has not been cut, you should
> measure 1.675-1.680 from the spring land to the valve tip, (you will
> need to remove the spring to accurately take this measurement). This
> value, (as measured), will let you know whether or not the, (rocker
> critical), geometry of your engine has been altered from O.E.M. spec. A
> .010"-.020" differential will make no difference. A .080"-.125"
> difference would be a red flag as to why your rockers do not align
> properly!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jim Swarthout
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Anyone out there know the overall length of a stock TR6 valve? Intake
> or exhaust.
>
>
> I'm still dealing with the Roller Rocker problem. Great help from all
> the list and it is very much appreciated. I have a call in to Richard
> Good in hopes his new rocker pedestals will fix the problem.
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