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RE: Transmission Removal - Also thrust washers

To: <Gameparker@cs.com>, <mitchvamos@operamail.com>, <hrmcaleer@bellsouth.net>,
Subject: RE: Transmission Removal - Also thrust washers
From: "Hugh Barber" <tr6nut@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:41:55 -0700
Geoff,

Don't try to figure out the solution before you get the pan off and see what
has happened.  Put the tranny back on (I have found it invaluable to get a
couple of long bolts, cut the heads off, thread them into the rear engine
plate, and use them as temporary "quides" to help with tranny re-install),
get the pan off and take a look.  You may have worn thrust washers or you
may find that you have a thrust washer in the pan (dropped out of place).
The oversize and standard thrust washers can be "mixed and matched" to get
the required clearances and in a pinch, a bit can be (carefully) sanded off
the steel back to get a custom oversize washer.  I am truly sorry that my
diagnosis turned out to be correct.

Hugh Barber
Hollister, CA
'73 TR6

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Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 10:31 AM
To: tr6nut@sbcglobal.net; mitchvamos@operamail.com;
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Subject: Re: Transmission Removal - Also thrust washers


List,
special thanks to HRM, Hugh and Mitch for getting back to with with tranny
removal procedures which allowed me to pull the tranny in about 45 minutes.
Next time (if there is one) I will only be faster!  Now for the bad news:
much
to my dismay, I had installed the clutch correctly - my point is, is the
orientation of the clutch disk was NOT the reason why the tranny would not
go into
gear with the engine running.  Hugh, you had suggested looking at the thrust
washers, so I set up a plunge gauge and pulled the flywheel back and forth
and
got 14 thousandths - my manual says between 6 and 8 thou.  Could 6-7 thou.
cause my situation?  Regardless I want to change them out, but here is my
next
dilemma:  oversized thrust wasters are available in 5 and 15 thou.  If I use
the
5 thou. it won't bring me into the recommended range and 15 thou with lock
the
crank up.  Is my 14 thou play deemed enough to even touch the washers?
Barring the thrust washers, what else could be the culprit to prevent gear
selection (when engine is off, tranny goes into gear fine).  One last thing,
when it
came time to install the bushing into the flywheel, I ended up using the old
one because the new LUK bushing was at least a 16th thicker than the old one
(it
looked as though it would almost prevent the flywheel mating properly to the
crank), and did not spin freely in the flywheel like the old one did.  Any
significance here?
Thanks and sorry my problems are so long winded,
Geoff Parker
74 TR6

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