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Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: John Perkins <zamagnette@charter.net>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:28:36 -0600
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John:
     It has proven a bit more challenging than I first thought, also, I 
had to take off the weeks around Christmas and New Year's Eve to be with 
my family instead of working at my computer.  I've been sharing updates 
with our esteemed leader to get his input and I've incorporated his 
suggestions.  I'll likely finish the first draft in the next couple of 
weeks and get it ready for technical review.
     Perkins

On 1/4/2014 1:02 PM, John Park wrote:
>
> What's the status on these diagrams?
>
> *From:*zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net 
> [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *John Perkins
> *Sent:* Friday, December 06, 2013 12:52 PM
> *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens
>
> Rick and Allen:
>     As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring 
> diagram in Visio and color the wires in as correct a color as Visio 
> will allow.  Then output it as a PDF file that anyone could print on 
> either 8.5 by 11 or 11 by 17 paper.  We could even use this to fix the 
> problem with the wiper motor wiring that is in the factory shop manual.
>     Perkins
>
> On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:
>
>     Allen et al.,
>
>     Regarding (1):  I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams from
>     the shop manual.  My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it could
>     produce a workable digital image.  Then anyone could print and
>     laminate their own from the digital file.
>
>     If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you might
>     want to use a better scanner though.
>
>     Let me know if you want a digital scan.
>
>     --Rick
>
>     On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>
>
>
>         In a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two
>         concerns arose which I promised to address about a week ago.
>          I apologize for the delay, but my past week has been
>         memorable for its interruptions.
>
>         Two questions:
>
>             1.)  Is there somebody in our noble band who either could
>             or would be interested in making up enlarged wiring
>             diagrams for the Magnette. I know there are at least four
>             of them, and maybe some choices would have to be made, but
>             did somebody volunteer that they could provide an 11 X 17
>             wiring diagram copy either laminated or suitable for
>             lamination? If you are not such a person but have access
>             to equipment that could produce same, for a PRICE of
>             course, I can guaranty you sales of two of these from the
>             get-go.  I know we discussed this at some time but cannot
>             recall how we left it.
>
>             2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two
>             ago, and somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US
>             distribution center (somewhere in Ohio?) from which we
>             might be able to expect a supply of new windscreens.  Is
>             there a follow-up story here? There are those of us who
>             either need one or would buy one as a spare should they
>             become available.  Once again, any new information about
>             this would certainly be welcome.  I know the nightmare
>             Steve Hanegan went through to land a shipment of
>             windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here in the US of A.
>              I suspect a good many of those of us of the Varitone
>             persuasion would be cheered to find a stash of these bits
>             available in North America, but I wouldn't wish this task
>             on Steve again for anything.  So... can anybody report
>             anything new on this concern?
>
>         Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this conversation!
>
>         Holiday Cheers,
>
>         Allen
>
>         */****************************************************************/*
>
>         */Allen & Florrie Bachelder   =iii=<
>         Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs/*
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>         */'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT/*
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">John:<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It has proven a bit more challenging than I first 
thought,
      also, I had to take off the weeks around Christmas and New Year's
      Eve to be with my family instead of working at my computer.&nbsp; I've
      been sharing updates with our esteemed leader to get his input and
      I've incorporated his suggestions.&nbsp; I'll likely finish the first
      draft in the next couple of weeks and get it ready for technical
      review.<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perkins<br>
      <br>
      On 1/4/2014 1:02 PM, John Park wrote:<br>
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                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
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                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
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 <b>On Behalf
                  Of </b>John Perkins<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 06, 2013 12:52 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Rick and Allen:<br>
            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce 
the
            wiring diagram in Visio and color the wires in as correct a
            color as Visio will allow.&nbsp; Then output it as a PDF file
            that anyone could print on either 8.5 by 11 or 11 by 17
            paper.&nbsp; We could even use this to fix the problem with the
            wiper motor wiring that is in the factory shop manual.<br>
            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perkins<br>
            <br>
            On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Regarding (1): &nbsp;I would be happy to
              scan the wiring diagrams from the shop manual. &nbsp;My scanner
              is a cheap hp printer, but it could produce a workable
              digital image. &nbsp;Then anyone could print and laminate their
              own from the digital file. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">If you want an artistic version,
              suitable for framing, you might want to use a better
              scanner though.<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Let me know if you want a digital 
scan.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">--Rick<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen
                Bachelder wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">In a recent phone conversation with
                  one of our own, two concerns arose which I promised to
                  address about a week ago. &nbsp;I apologize for the delay,
                  but my past week has been memorable for its
                  interruptions. &nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
                </div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Two questions:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">1.) &nbsp;Is there somebody in our
                      noble band who either could or would be interested
                      in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the
                      Magnette. I know there are at least four of them,
                      and maybe some choices would have to be made, but
                      did somebody volunteer that they could provide an
                      11 X 17 wiring diagram copy either laminated or
                      suitable for lamination? If you are not such a
                      person but have access to equipment that could
                      produce same, for a PRICE of course, I can
                      guaranty you sales of two of these from the
                      get-go. &nbsp;I know we discussed this at some time but
                      cannot recall how we left it.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
                  </div>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">2.) We also focused on a
                      windscreen thread a year or two ago, and somebody
                      found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US
                      distribution center (somewhere in Ohio?) from
                      which we might be able to expect a supply of new
                      windscreens. &nbsp;Is there a follow-up story here?
                      There are those of us who either need one or would
                      buy one as a spare should they become available.
                      &nbsp;Once again, any new information about this would
                      certainly be welcome. &nbsp;I know the nightmare Steve
                      Hanegan went through to land a shipment of
                      windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here in the
                      US of A. &nbsp;I suspect a good many of those of us of
                      the Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a
                      stash of these bits available in North America,
                      but I wouldn't wish this task on Steve again for
                      anything. &nbsp;So... can anybody report anything new
                      on this concern?<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
                  </div>
                </blockquote>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks to anybody who can
                  contribute to this conversation! <o:p></o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Holiday Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Allen<o:p></o:p></p>
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