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Mine are all laid out, marked up and ready to take to the printer at a =
moment's notice. Though they are in black and white, the numerical codes =
for the wire colors are directly above the diagram and easy to see. They =
are a bit larger than 11"x17" at 16" x 24". Provisions have been made =
for the 4 variations: ZA RHD, ZA LHD (semaphore - no flashing), ZB RHD =
and ZB LHD (flashing indicators). I have corrected the diagram for self =
parking wipers, but not for the inclusion of semaphores on a car not =
originally equipped with them. I believe that Paul Barrow at one point =
created and shared a diagram for this mod. If it is important to folks =
and if I can find it, this can be added to the schematic as well.
Steve H.
On Jan 4, 2014, at 11:02 AM, John Park <jpark@bmts.com> wrote:
> What=92s the status on these diagrams?
> =20
> From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net =
[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Perkins
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:52 PM
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens
> =20
> Rick and Allen:
> As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring =
diagram in Visio and color the wires in as correct a color as Visio will =
allow. Then output it as a PDF file that anyone could print on either =
8.5 by 11 or 11 by 17 paper. We could even use this to fix the problem =
with the wiper motor wiring that is in the factory shop manual.
> Perkins
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> On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:
> Allen et al.,
> =20
> Regarding (1): I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams from the =
shop manual. My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it could produce a =
workable digital image. Then anyone could print and laminate their own =
from the digital file. =20
> =20
> If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you might want =
to use a better scanner though.
> =20
> Let me know if you want a digital scan.
> =20
> --Rick
> =20
> On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>=20
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> In a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns arose =
which I promised to address about a week ago. I apologize for the =
delay, but my past week has been memorable for its interruptions. =20
> =20
> Two questions:
> 1.) Is there somebody in our noble band who either could or would be =
interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the Magnette. I =
know there are at least four of them, and maybe some choices would have =
to be made, but did somebody volunteer that they could provide an 11 X =
17 wiring diagram copy either laminated or suitable for lamination? If =
you are not such a person but have access to equipment that could =
produce same, for a PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales of two of =
these from the get-go. I know we discussed this at some time but cannot =
recall how we left it.
> =20
> 2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago, and =
somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US distribution center =
(somewhere in Ohio?) from which we might be able to expect a supply of =
new windscreens. Is there a follow-up story here? There are those of us =
who either need one or would buy one as a spare should they become =
available. Once again, any new information about this would certainly =
be welcome. I know the nightmare Steve Hanegan went through to land a =
shipment of windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here in the US of A. =
I suspect a good many of those of us of the Varitone persuasion would be =
cheered to find a stash of these bits available in North America, but I =
wouldn't wish this task on Steve again for anything. So... can anybody =
report anything new on this concern?
> =20
> Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this conversation!
> =20
> Holiday Cheers,
> Allen
> ****************************************************************
> Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D<
> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
> North Street, MI 48049, USA
> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Mine are all laid out, marked =
up and ready to take to the printer at a moment's notice. Though they =
are in black and white, the numerical codes for the wire colors are =
directly above the diagram and easy to see. They are a bit larger than =
11"x17" at 16" x 24". Provisions have been made for the 4 variations: ZA =
RHD, ZA LHD (semaphore - no flashing), ZB RHD and ZB LHD (flashing =
indicators). I have corrected the diagram for self parking wipers, but =
not for the inclusion of semaphores on a car not originally equipped =
with them. I believe that Paul Barrow at one point created and shared a =
diagram for this mod. If it is important to folks and if I can find it, =
this can be added to the schematic as well.<div><br></div><div>Steve =
H.</div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 4, 2014, at 11:02 AM, John Park <<a =
href=3D"mailto:jpark@bmts.com";>jpark@bmts.com</a>> wrote:</div><br =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: purple; =
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Perkins<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
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12:52 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
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Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring =
diagrams and windscreens<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; ">Rick and Allen:<br> As I'm sitting in hotel =
rooms, I could reproduce the wiring diagram in Visio and color the wires =
in as correct a color as Visio will allow. Then output it as a PDF =
file that anyone could print on either 8.5 by 11 or 11 by 17 =
paper. We could even use this to fix the problem with the wiper =
motor wiring that is in the factory shop manual.<br> =
Perkins<br><br>On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Allen et =
al.,<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
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0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">Regarding (1): I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams from =
the shop manual. My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it could =
produce a workable digital image. Then anyone could print and =
laminate their own from the digital file. =
<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
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"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">If =
you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you might want to =
use a better scanner though.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
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New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; ">Let me know if you want a digital =
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Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder =
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"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">In a recent =
phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns arose which I =
promised to address about a week ago. I apologize for the delay, =
but my past week has been memorable for its interruptions. =
<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
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questions:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-left: 30pt; =
margin-right: 0in; "><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">1.) Is =
there somebody in our noble band who either could or would be interested =
in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the Magnette. I know there are =
at least four of them, and maybe some choices would have to be made, but =
did somebody volunteer that they could provide an 11 X 17 wiring diagram =
copy either laminated or suitable for lamination? If you are not such a =
person but have access to equipment that could produce same, for a PRICE =
of course, I can guaranty you sales of two of these from the get-go. =
I know we discussed this at some time but cannot recall how we =
left it.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
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We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago, and somebody =
found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US distribution center (somewhere =
in Ohio?) from which we might be able to expect a supply of new =
windscreens. Is there a follow-up story here? There are those of =
us who either need one or would buy one as a spare should they become =
available. Once again, any new information about this would =
certainly be welcome. I know the nightmare Steve Hanegan went =
through to land a shipment of windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here =
in the US of A. I suspect a good many of those of us of the =
Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a stash of these bits =
available in North America, but I wouldn't wish this task on Steve again =
for anything. So... can anybody report anything new on this =
concern?<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></blockquote><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
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">Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this =
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