Re: [Zmagnette] Air Vent Removal <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>

[Steve Hanegan <steve@betterwitnesses.com>]

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Amen! Long live digital cameras and big hard drives...

Steve H.

On Dec 19, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net> =
wrote:

> Only to add that once the screen is removed, I believe two large 1/4" =
bolts are revealed, holding the cover to the mechanism.  If you've =
removed the dash first, and the radio, etc, removal of the rest will be =
pretty much intuitive. BUT DO make some drawings and take some pictures =
showing how the linkage goes together. There are several ways of =
reassembling it, in close correspondence with SPL  and FWM, that are =
nevertheless wrong. You cannot be too careful about this.  A couple =
extra hours spent documenting the disassembly will save you MANY hours =
putting it together.  The manuals do not teach you anywhere near what =
you need to put this together.  Your only real guide is the original =
assembly and it's disassembly.  This is one of the few places where our =
list breaks down.  A lot of us have done this; Damn few of us remember =
how!  Bear in mind that you will teach yourself most of what you need to =
know. Go slow on your disassembly and draw a lot of pictures!
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> FWIW,
> Allen
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> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
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> North Street, MI 48049, USA
> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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> On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Steve Hanegan wrote:
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>> Once you take the screws that are along the top edge of the screen =
off, the screen can be removed. After the screen is removed, the nuts =
that hold the cowl vent cover to its' hinge mechanism will be exposed =
and can be removed along with the cowl vent cover. The hinge assembly =
itself needs to be removed from inside the car with the dash out.
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>> Steve H.
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>> On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:44 AM, "Steve C." <laverda@aol.com> wrote:
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>>> The phillips head screws under the lid and above the screen mesh are =
just to hold the screen in place. I do not know how the actual lid comes =
out. It gas been more then 20 years since I restored my ZA, but I =
remember thinking it was not designed to be removed after assembly by =
MG.=20
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>>> Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail. Please excuse my =
brevity.
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>>> franklin sprafke <frsprafke@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Hi,
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>>> How do I remove he air vent* that resides between the bonnet and the =
windscreen?  I've been unable to find good exploded diagrams in either =
the WSM or SPL. =20
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>>> * the SPL calls the vent cover: P/N 36 Lid Assembly - Dash =
Ventilator
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>>> I can open the vent up, but it is very rusty and doesn't move well.  =
The vent cover itself looks to be in reasonably good shape but I suspect =
it is all rotted out underneath the lid.  When I open the vent, I can =
see a number of phillips head screws under the lid and above the screen =
mesh.  I suspect that removing them will allow me to pull the vent lid =
off, but those screws are so rusty they are going to break long before I =
can unscrew them so I thought I'd better ask for advice from the group.=20=

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>>> I have the heater unit out of the car, but I don't see any easy =
access from underneath.   I can se e that there are 4 screws under the =
dash that look like they hold the flap to the air vent duct in place.  =
However,  it looks like it will still be impossible to extract the flap =
even if those 4 screws do come out - it's a really tight fit under =
there. =20
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>>> So before I go about this the wrong way - what is the right way to =
remove the vent for repair? =20
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>>> Thanks in advance.
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>>> Best Regards,
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>>> Dick
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>>> Dick Sprafke
>>> Providence, RI
>>> 57 ZB
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Long live digital cameras and big hard =
drives...<div><br></div><div>Steve H.</div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 19, =
2013, at 9:54 PM, Allen Bachelder &lt;<a =
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space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Only to add that once =
the screen is removed, I believe two large 1/4" bolts are revealed, =
holding the cover to the mechanism. &nbsp;If you've removed the dash =
first, and the radio, etc, removal of the rest will be pretty much =
intuitive. BUT DO make some drawings and take some pictures showing how =
the linkage goes together. There are several ways of reassembling it, in =
close correspondence with SPL &nbsp;and FWM, that are nevertheless =
wrong. You cannot be too careful about this. &nbsp;A couple extra hours =
spent documenting the disassembly will save you MANY hours putting it =
together. &nbsp;The manuals do not teach you anywhere near what you need =
to put this together. &nbsp;Your only real guide is the original =
assembly and it's disassembly. &nbsp;This is one of the few places where =
our list breaks down. &nbsp;A lot of us have done this; Damn few of us =
remember how! &nbsp;Bear in mind that you will teach yourself most of =
what you need to know. Go slow on your disassembly and draw a lot of =
pictures!<div><br></div><div>FWIW,</div><div>Allen<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Steve Hanegan wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dus-ascii"><base=
 href=3D"x-msg://19/"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Once =
you take the screws that are along the top edge of the screen off, the =
screen can be removed. After the screen is removed, the nuts that hold =
the cowl vent cover to its' hinge mechanism will be exposed and can be =
removed along with the cowl vent cover. The hinge assembly itself needs =
to be removed from inside the car with the dash =
out.<div><br></div><div>Steve =
H.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:44 AM, =
"Steve C." &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:laverda@aol.com";>laverda@aol.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"hmmessage" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Calibri; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">The =
phillips head screws under the lid and above the screen mesh are just to =
hold the screen in place. I do not know how the actual lid comes out. It =
gas been more then 20 years since I restored my ZA, but I remember =
thinking it was not designed to be removed after assembly by MG.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>--<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>Sent from my Android =
phone with<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://mail.com/";>mail.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Mail. Please excuse my =
brevity.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">franklin sprafke &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:frsprafke@hotmail.com";>frsprafke@hotmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex; "><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>How do I remove he air =
vent* that resides between the bonnet and the windscreen? &nbsp;I've =
been unable to find good exploded diagrams in either the WSM or SPL. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>* the SPL calls the vent cover: P/N 36 =
Lid Assembly - Dash Ventilator</div><div><br></div><div>I can open the =
vent up, but it is very rusty and doesn't move well. &nbsp;The vent =
cover itself looks to be in reasonably good shape but I suspect it is =
all rotted out underneath the lid. &nbsp;When I open the vent, I can see =
a number of phillips head screws under the lid and above the screen =
mesh. &nbsp;I suspect that removing them will allow me to pull the vent =
lid off, but those screws are so rusty they are going to break long =
before I can unscrew them so I thought I'd better ask for advice from =
the group.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I have the heater unit out of =
the car, but I don't see any easy access from underneath. &nbsp; I can =
se e that there are 4 screws under the dash that look like they hold the =
flap to the air vent duct in place. &nbsp;However, &nbsp;it looks like =
it will still be impossible to extract the flap even if those 4 screws =
do come out - it's a really tight fit under there. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>So before I go about this the wrong way =
- what is the right way to remove the vent for repair? =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in =
advance.</div><div><br></div><div>Best =
Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Dick</div><div><br></div><div>Dick =
Sprafke</div><div>Providence, RI</div><div>57 =
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