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I too was amazed at the volume of debris in the heater core. I hope it is =
all out as our winters have taken a turn for the worse lately. =20
In response to the other thread with a working B valve, leave well enough a=
lone. =20
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelvin Dodd <doddk@mossmotors.com>
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America' <zmagnette@autox.team.n=
et>
Sent: Thu, Dec 19, 2013 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Air Vent Removal
Sorry, the attached is not a very good picture, but you can see the stainle=
ss steel hinges.=20
=20
The screen comes off first, then you can see the screws that attach the fla=
p to the body at the rear. The underside panel is attached to the outer fla=
p by 2 BA screws that thread into welded inserts. The inserts in mine were =
rusted out, so I had to cut the bolt heads with a Dremel grinding wheel. No=
fun.=20
=20
The flap operating mechanism comes out from inside the car after the heater=
is removed. That should be pretty straight forward.=20
=20
I refurbished the inside of the vent flap and poured in lots of POR15 befor=
e bolting the inner panel back on and installing a new seal from Lou.=20
=20
The inside mechanism flap got a new seal too. I found MGA windshield sealin=
g rubber to be very useful to replace these seals and also for the heater r=
etaining strap. =20
=20
I was ^%)^ing bricks because the outer face of the flap had been finish pai=
nted and polished, but the insides were totally rusty and nasty. So yes, it=
is possible to dismantle the vent assembly without too much trauma.=20
=20
Personal note. We get blinded by experience with British sports cars and th=
eir minimalistic comforts. The Magnette as a saloon car has a real heater t=
hat is designed to divert air where needed and it is a fairly complex unit,=
but is not that difficult to figure out. Once rebuilt with new seals and a=
clean heater core it is very effective giving choices of outside cool air,=
heated outside air or recirculated warm air.=20
=20
Note. The heater core is a low spot. Mine was filled with balls of congeale=
d rusty junk. It took about 3 hours of shaking to get all the pea sized chu=
nks out.=20
=20
Kelvin.=20
=20
From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team=
.net] On Behalf Of Steve C.
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 3:44 AM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Air Vent Removal
=20
The phillips head screws under the lid and above the screen mesh are just t=
o hold the screen in place. I do not know how the actual lid comes out. It =
gas been more then 20 years since I restored my ZA, but I remember thinking=
it was not designed to be removed after assembly by MG.=20
Hi,
=20
How do I remove he air vent* that resides between the bonnet and the windsc=
reen? I've been unable to find good exploded diagrams in either the WSM or=
SPL. =20
=20
* the SPL calls the vent cover: P/N 36 Lid Assembly - Dash Ventilator
=20
I can open the vent up, but it is very rusty and doesn't move well. The ve=
nt cover itself looks to be in reasonably good shape but I suspect it is al=
l rotted out underneath the lid. When I open the vent, I can see a number =
of phillips head screws under the lid and above the screen mesh. I suspect=
that removing them will allow me to pull the vent lid off, but those screw=
s are so rusty they are going to break long before I can unscrew them so I =
thought I'd better ask for advice from the group.=20
=20
I have the heater unit out of the car, but I don't see any easy access from=
underneath. I can se e that there are 4 screws under the dash that look =
like they hold the flap to the air vent duct in place. However, it looks =
like it will still be impossible to extract the flap even if those 4 screws=
do come out - it's a really tight fit under there. =20
=20
So before I go about this the wrong way - what is the right way to remove t=
he vent for repair? =20
=20
Thanks in advance.
=20
Best Regards,
=20
Dick
=20
Dick Sprafke
Providence, RI
57 ZB
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<div><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style=3D"background-color:=
transparent;">I too was amazed at the volume of debris in the heater core.=
I hope it is all out as our winters have taken a turn for the worse =
lately. </font></div>
<div> </div>
<div>In response to the other thread with a working B valve, leave well eno=
ugh alone. </div>
<div></div>
<div></div>
<div style=3D"color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;"=
>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Kelvin Dodd <doddk@mossmotors.com><br>
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America' <zmagnette@autox.tea=
m.net><br>
Sent: Thu, Dec 19, 2013 2:33 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Air Vent Removal<br>
<br>
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<div class=3D"WordSection1">
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">Sor=
ry, the attached is not a very good picture, but you can see the stainless =
steel hinges. </span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">&nb=
sp;</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">The=
screen comes off first, then you can see the screws that attach the flap t=
o the body at the rear. The underside panel is attached to the outer flap b=
y 2 BA screws that thread into welded inserts. The inserts in mine were rus=
ted out, so I had to cut the bolt heads with a Dremel grinding wheel. No fu=
n. </span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">&nb=
sp;</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">The=
flap operating mechanism comes out from inside the car after the heater is=
removed. That should be pretty straight forward. </span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">&nb=
sp;</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">I r=
efurbished the inside of the vent flap and poured in lots of POR15 before b=
olting the inner panel back on and installing a new seal from Lou. </span><=
/div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">&nb=
sp;</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">The=
inside mechanism flap got a new seal too. I found MGA windshield sealing r=
ubber to be very useful to replace these seals and also for the heater reta=
ining strap. </span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">&nb=
sp;</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">I w=
as ^%)^ing bricks because the outer face of the flap had been finish painte=
d and polished, but the insides were totally rusty and nasty. So yes, it is=
possible to dismantle the vent assembly without too much trauma. </span></=
div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">&nb=
sp;</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">Per=
sonal note. We get blinded by experience with British sports cars and their=
minimalistic comforts. The Magnette as a saloon car has a real heater that=
is designed to divert air where needed and it is a fairly complex unit, bu=
t is not that difficult to figure out. Once rebuilt with new seals and a cl=
ean heater core it is very effective giving choices of outside cool air, he=
ated outside air or recirculated warm air. </span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">&nb=
sp;</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">Not=
e. The heater core is a low spot. Mine was filled with balls of congealed r=
usty junk. It took about 3 hours of shaking to get all the pea sized chunks=
out. </span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">&nb=
sp;</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">Kel=
vin. </span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 11pt;">&nb=
sp;</span></div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none non=
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0in 0in;">
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 10pt;">=
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:; font-size: 10pt;"> <a href=3D"=
mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net";>zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</=
a> [<a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net?";>mailto:zmagnette-b=
ounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve C.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 19, 2013 3:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Air Vent Removal</span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style=3D"font=
-family:;">The phillips head screws under the lid and above the screen mesh=
are just to hold the screen in place. I do not know how the actual lid com=
es out. It gas been more then 20 years since I restored my ZA, but I rememb=
er thinking it was not designed to be removed after assembly by MG. <br>
<br>
</span></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;">Hi,</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;">How do I remove he a=
ir vent* that resides between the bonnet and the windscreen? I've bee=
n unable to find good exploded diagrams in either the WSM or SPL. </s=
pan></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;">* the SPL calls the =
vent cover: P/N 36 Lid Assembly - Dash Ventilator</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;">I can open the vent =
up, but it is very rusty and doesn't move well. The vent cover itself=
looks to be in reasonably good shape but I suspect it is all rotted out un=
derneath the lid. When I open the vent, I can see a number of phillip=
s head screws under the lid and above the screen mesh. I suspect that=
removing them will allow me to pull the vent lid off, but those screws are=
so rusty they are going to break long before I can unscrew them so I thoug=
ht I'd better ask for advice from the group. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;">I have the heater un=
it out of the car, but I don't see any easy access from underneath. =
I can se e that there are 4 screws under the dash that look like they hold =
the flap to the air vent duct in place. However, it looks like =
it will still be impossible to extract the flap even if those 4 screws do c=
ome out - it's a really tight fit under there. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;">So before I go about=
this the wrong way - what is the right way to remove the vent for repair? =
</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;">Thanks in advance.</=
span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;">Best Regards,</span>=
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;">Dick</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;">Dick Sprafke</span><=
/div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;">Providence, RI</span=
></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:;">57 ZB</span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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