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From: Kurt Nagl <imaregalia@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:23:52 -0500 (EST)
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Having the color added sounds good to me.  After we download & print it to =
8.5X11, then take that size & have it enlarged & laminated.  I had one for =
my old '67 Beetle & it was very easy to trace



Kurt



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From: John Perkins <wrench@attglobal.net>
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette@autox.team.net=
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Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2013 1:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens


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Rick and Allen:
          As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring      =
diagram in Visio and color the wires in as correct a color as      Visio wi=
ll allow.  Then output it as a PDF file that anyone could      print on eit=
her 8.5 by 11 or 11 by 17 paper.  We could even use      this to fix the pr=
oblem with the wiper motor wiring that is in the      factory shop manual.
          Perkins
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      On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:
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Allen et al.,
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Regarding (1):  I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams        from th=
e shop manual.  My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it        could produ=
ce a workable digital image.  Then anyone could print        and laminate t=
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If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you        might wan=
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Let me know if you want a digital scan.
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Two questions:
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1.)  Is there somebody in our noble band who either                could or=
 would be interested in making up enlarged                wiring diagrams f=
or the Magnette. I know there are at                least four of them, and=
 maybe some choices would have to                be made, but did somebody =
volunteer that they could                provide an 11 X 17 wiring diagram =
copy either laminated                or suitable for lamination? If you are=
 not such a person                but have access to equipment that could p=
roduce same,                for a PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales=
 of two                of these from the get-go.  I know we discussed this =
at                some time but cannot recall how we left it.
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, and somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) had                a US distr=
ibution center (somewhere in Ohio?) from which                we might be a=
ble to expect a supply of new windscreens.                 Is there a follo=
w-up story here? There are those of us                who either need one o=
r would buy one as a spare should                they become available.  On=
ce again, any new information                about this would certainly be =
welcome.  I know the                nightmare Steve Hanegan went through to=
 land a shipment                of windscreens and rear Varitone glasses he=
re in the US                of A.  I suspect a good many of those of us of =
the                Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a stash of =
               these bits available in North America, but I wouldn't       =
         wish this task on Steve again for anything.  So... can            =
    anybody report anything new on this concern?
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<font color=3D'rgb(65, 105, 225)' size=3D'4' face=3D'Arial, Helvetica, sans=
-serif'>Having the color added sounds good to me. &nbsp;After we download &=
amp; print it to 8.5X11, then take that size &amp; have it enlarged &amp; l=
aminated. &nbsp;I had one for my old '67 Beetle &amp; it was very easy to t=
race
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><b><i>Kurt</i></b></div>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: John Perkins &lt;wrench@attglobal.net&gt;<br>
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America &lt;zmagnette@autox.team.=
net&gt;<br>
Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2013 1:17 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens<br>
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Rick and Allen:<br>

      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce t=
he wiring
      diagram in Visio and color the wires in as correct a color as
      Visio will allow.&nbsp; Then output it as a PDF file that anyone coul=
d
      print on either 8.5 by 11 or 11 by 17 paper.&nbsp; We could even use
      this to fix the problem with the wiper motor wiring that is in the
      factory shop manual.<br>

      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perkins<br>

      <br>

      On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:<br>

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<div>Allen et al.,</div>

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<div>Regarding (1): &nbsp;I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams
        from the shop manual. &nbsp;My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but i=
t
        could produce a workable digital image. &nbsp;Then anyone could pri=
nt
        and laminate their own from the digital file. &nbsp;</div>

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      </div>

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<div>If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you
        might want to use a better scanner though.</div>

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<div>Let me know if you want a digital scan.</div>

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      </div>

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<div>--Rick</div>

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<div>On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:</div>

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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">In a recent phone
            conversation with one of our own, two concerns arose which I
            promised to address about a week ago. &nbsp;I apologize for the
            delay, but my past week has been memorable for its
            interruptions. &nbsp;
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<div>Two questions:</div>

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<div>1.) &nbsp;Is there somebody in our noble band who either
                could or would be interested in making up enlarged
                wiring diagrams for the Magnette. I know there are at
                least four of them, and maybe some choices would have to
                be made, but did somebody volunteer that they could
                provide an 11 X 17 wiring diagram copy either laminated
                or suitable for lamination? If you are not such a person
                but have access to equipment that could produce same,
                for a PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales of two
                of these from the get-go. &nbsp;I know we discussed this at
                some time but cannot recall how we left it.</div>

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              </div>

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<div>2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or
                two ago, and somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) had
                a US distribution center (somewhere in Ohio?) from which
                we might be able to expect a supply of new windscreens.
                &nbsp;Is there a follow-up story here? There are those of u=
s
                who either need one or would buy one as a spare should
                they become available. &nbsp;Once again, any new informatio=
n
                about this would certainly be welcome. &nbsp;I know the
                nightmare Steve Hanegan went through to land a shipment
                of windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here in the US
                of A. &nbsp;I suspect a good many of those of us of the
                Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a stash of
                these bits available in North America, but I wouldn't
                wish this task on Steve again for anything. &nbsp;So... can
                anybody report anything new on this concern?</div>

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              </div>

            </blockquote>
            Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this
            conversation!
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<div>Holiday Cheers,</div>

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<div>Allen<br>

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