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RE:2500 or one of 50, 2500Ms????

To: Graham Povey <graham@gspovey.demon.co.uk>, tvr@autox.team.net
Subject: RE:2500 or one of 50, 2500Ms????
From: "T. R. Householder" <trhouse@greenapple.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:41:52 -0500
T. R. Householder wrote:
> 
> This is a re-mail.. had a missing letter in original list adress..
> 
> T.R.
> 
> Thanks for the web info....
> 
> Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:44:07 -0500 (EST)
> 
>     Subject:
>             Re: 2500 or one of 50 2500ms????
>        Date:
>             Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:45:42 -0500
>       From:
>             "T. R. Householder" <trhouse@greenapple.com>
>         To:
>             Graham Povey <graham@gspovey.demon.co.uk>
>         CC:
>             vr@autox.team.net
> References:
>             1
> 
> This car was bought in the Washington D.C area some years back.
> It has less than 20 k miles on it. I've upgraded the cooling system. It
> has Cortina Lights, plexiglass side windows and the GRILLE VENTS
> behind the front wheels. The plex. side windows (both sides) are of
> unknown origin. I believe I am the 2nd long term owner of the car with
> buyer/seller sandwiched in between. Car was originally Burgundy and
> repainted once . Now is a Dark blue almost black. I bought the car
> primarily due to the low miliage chassis. The engine had some problems
> related to the inadequate cooling system.
> 
>  With my long history with Triumph cars, of wich I am well versed, I
> sincerely respect the information that you have supplied. Having co
> founded  the TRIUMPH Register of America some 25 plus years ago and been
> more than casual historian with the side screen TRs ,I fully appreciate
> the importance of correcting mis- information.
> 
>  I've been on a quest to locate the remaining Swallow Doretti Sports
> cars in the world (less than 300 built) over the Past 15 or so years
> primarily driven by the convoluded history that had followed the cars.
> With the efforts of the Registers in England and Austrailia we are
> tracking some two hundred of them now. This is a car with no avilable
> manufactures archives to derive answers, relative to production, from.
> With my engineering background and Registry intrests, I keep records on
> details from the Doretti cars in order to provide some assemblance of a
> reference to draw production change history from.
> 
>   I am aware that statements made are only as good as the input of
> information you have to work with. Seems I somewhat confirmed the low
> numbers or at least started to investigate it some 14 years ago when I
> bought the car. This was through some sort of published TVR book. The
> reference escapes me at this point. I welcome any input you have and am
> including the serial number so you might more adequately ID this car
> with substantial information about it from which to draw your
> conclutions--The number only 50 made came from the enthusiast in between
> guy I bought it from who was versed on TVRs and dealt with them
> considerably. The Cortina tail light thing and the steel bumper limited
> production statement was taken with a grain of salt, knowing the
> proceedures of  Brittish car production.
> 
>  Given the suspected error of your statement on the lights and grille
> behind the front wheels..
> 
> Graham Povey wrote:
> "The first M series cars did have MK2 Cortina rear lights then came TR6
> lights and finally the strange generic units that most of the M series
> cars use. I'm not sure when the changes took place but I think the
> Cortina lights disappeared at the same time as the grilles behind the
> front wheels."
> 
> ...it's quite possibly the Parts bin overlap that produced the
> combination of the Grilles and Cortina lights and steel bumper is the
> origin of the " 50" statement that has followed the car?????
> 
>   Having been involved in putting together rules for creditable
> individual marque concours shows - and a historian/restorer of British
> cars. I feel quite confident that this car is in tact originality wise
> (If there is such a thing with Brittish Cars)  The only question being..
> the plex side windows???
> 
>    I welcome your comments on TM 2547 (Need to check the car but this is
> on the bill of sale)
> 
> Thank you.
> T.R. Householder
> Triumph Register of America
> Swallow Doretti Register
> 
> Graham Povey wrote:
> >
> > You'll find the 2500 correctly listed in the model guide on my website,
> > The TVR Files. Most people, even former owners, here in Britain refer to
> > it as the Vixen 2500. Numbers produced were 385, 289 Vixen S3 based and
> > 96 S4 on the M chassis. In comparison over 900 2500Ms were built.
> >
> > The first M series cars did have MK2 Cortina rear lights then came TR6
> > lights and finally the strange generic units that most of the M series
> > cars use. I'm not sure when the changes took place but I think the
> > Cortina lights disappeared at the same time as the grilles behind the
> > front wheels.
> > --
> > Graham Povey
> >
> > The TVR files - http://www.gspovey.demon.co.uk/garage/tvr/
> 
>
>

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