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Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 122
From: Rochlin Robert <rrochlin@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2026 10:23:45 -0400
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Hi Everyone,
        I'm not unsubscribing to the list. As distasteful as I find =
political discussion intruding on a list with as much expertise and =
camaraderie as the Triumph List has had over the years, I will not let =
one ill conceived post cause me to leave.  We should not dissolve our =
friendships and common interests because we have become so polarized =
politically.  It's not so hard to understand that is exactly what =
zealots on both ends of the political spectrum would love us to do, =
throw us into in-communicational chaos and distrust.=20
        My next list inquiry will be about understanding exactly the =
Zenith-Stromberg temperature compensator actually does...
        Best,
        Bob
        '72 TR6

> On Jul 6, 2026, at 7:59=E2=80=AFAM, John Reed <jr468@hotmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> I=E2=80=99m unsubscribing.  Political discussions are fine in their =
place, but I certainly don=E2=80=99t want to read hate filled rants when =
I open an email to read about Triumphs.   Thanks to those of you who =
spoke up about it.
>=20
> I joined Scions of Lucas in 1990 and the Triumph list several years =
later when it was it formed.  The information has been very helpful =
(Randall Young was a treasure) and it's been a great way to escape to =
the happy world of Triumphs even when I=E2=80=99m stuck at a computer.  =
I=E2=80=99ll miss reading the emails from the many good and interesting =
people on this list. =20
>=20
> Farewell,
> John
>=20
> =E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=
=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94
>=20
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:56:31 -0400
> From: Dave MacKay <dave@mdmackay.ca>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 121
> Message-ID: <207789c2b2a529778ab01257a9a3801b@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8"
>=20
> Thank you Dave.
>=20
> Before seeing your message I was about to unsubscribe (after having =
been
> on the list for >30 years).
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Dave MacKay
> 1960 TR3A s/n 68639L
> near Toronto, Canada
>=20
> >Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 11:28:43 +0000 (UTC)
> >From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> >To: "auprichard uprichard.net" <auprichard@uprichard.net>,
> >       John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>,
> >       dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
> >Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA
> >
> >There is no place on this list for this kind of arrogant, xenophobic
> invective rants.? You do not speak for a majority of Americans and
> certainly not me!? Only a small, vocal minority have drunk the =
koolaid.?
> Put a sock in it.
> >Dave
> >
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ------------------------------
>=20
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:58:05 -0400
> From: Arthur Fournier <artfournier4@gmail.com>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA
> Message-ID:
>         =
<CAF2RLw7v2OWC42+FH9Z=3DKpjxanom6W9SjO4Hxq6JwTtxuWtxCA@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>=20
> If there isn't a way of banning Dave Northrup from this list, please =
delete
> me from it.  I want nothing to do with mindless rants like his.
>=20
> Art Fournier
>=20
> ------------------------------
>=20
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:13:42 -0500
> From: <rjray.architect@gmail.com>
> To: "'Dave MacKay'" <dave@mdmackay.ca>, <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 121
> Message-ID: <02eb01dd0be9$3a81bf10$af853d30$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=3D"us-ascii"
>=20
> David Nothrup is the same guy that accused Albert of torching his own
> business, The Roadster Factory, which is why I avoid reading anything
> Northrup  post.
>=20
> I too, thank Dave Massey, for speaking up for most of us.
>=20
>   Ron
>=20
> ------------------------------
>=20
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 19:55:24 +0000
> From: Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com>
> To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
> Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA
> Message-ID: <C05CBFE0-5C42-4109-B2D3-AF15AA6C58D4@albiontechnical.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>=20
> Please stop. You?re embarrassing yourself.
>=20
> Mike,
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> On Jul 3, 2026, at 22:36, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>=20
> ?
> England ceased being a power what?  250 years ago?  They had a great =
1000 years or so, but have slid into socialism, despite Margaret =
Thatcher and are being taken over by the Muslims.  They are irrelevant =
in the world order
>=20
> William and Kate were the best thing to come out of that country but =
Charles has worked hard to make them irrelevant.
>=20
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of CAROLINE =
MCGAHEY
> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 8:52 AM
> To: auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA
>=20
> No.
> The cars were made in England and their biggest market was in the USA. =
British-American relations are therefore relevant.
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
>=20
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content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body =
style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Everyone,<div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">     </span>I'm not =
unsubscribing to the list. As distasteful as I find political discussion =
intruding on a list with as much expertise and camaraderie as the =
Triumph List has had over the years, I will not let one ill conceived =
post cause me to leave. &nbsp;We should not dissolve our friendships and =
common interests because we have become so polarized politically. =
&nbsp;It's not so hard to understand that is exactly what zealots on =
both ends of the political spectrum would love us to do, throw us into =
in-communicational chaos and distrust.&nbsp;</div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">     </span>My next =
list inquiry will be about understanding exactly the Zenith-Stromberg =
temperature compensator actually does...</div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">     =
</span>Best,</div><div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">      </span>Bob</div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">     </span>'72 =
TR6<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 6, 2026, at 7:59=E2=80=AFAM, John Reed =
&lt;jr468@hotmail.com&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div>

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sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">
I=E2=80=99m unsubscribing. &nbsp;Political discussions are fine in their =
place, but I certainly don=E2=80=99t want to read hate filled rants when =
I open an email to read about Triumphs. &nbsp; Thanks to those of you =
who spoke up about it.</div>
<div style=3D"direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">
I joined Scions of Lucas in 1990 and the Triumph list several years =
later when it was it formed. &nbsp;The information has been very helpful =
(Randall Young was a treasure) and it's been a great way to escape to =
the happy world of Triumphs even when I=E2=80=99m stuck at
 a computer. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99ll miss reading the emails from the many =
good and interesting people on this list. &nbsp;</div>
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sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">
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<div style=3D"direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">
Farewell,</div>
<div style=3D"direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">
John</div>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:56:31 -0400<br>
From: Dave MacKay &lt;dave@mdmackay.ca&gt;<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 121<br>
<br>
Thank you Dave.<br>
<br>
Before seeing your message I was about to unsubscribe (after having =
been<br>
on the list for &gt;30 years).<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Dave MacKay<br>
1960 TR3A s/n 68639L<br>
near Toronto, Canada<br>
<br>
&gt;Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 11:28:43 +0000 (UTC)<br>
&gt;From: DAVID MASSEY &lt;dave1massey@cs.com&gt;<br>
&gt;To: "auprichard uprichard.net" &lt;auprichard@uprichard.net&gt;,<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; John Macartney =
&lt;johnbmacartney@gmx.com&gt;,<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dave northrup =
&lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt;<br>
&gt;Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;There is no place on this list for this kind of arrogant, =
xenophobic<br>
invective rants.? You do not speak for a majority of Americans and<br>
certainly not me!? Only a small, vocal minority have drunk the =
koolaid.?<br>
Put a sock in it.<br>
&gt;Dave<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
------------------------------<br>
<br>
Message: 2<br>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:58:05 -0400<br>
From: Arthur Fournier &lt;artfournier4@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA<br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;CAF2RLw7v2OWC42+FH9Z=3DKpjxanom6W9SjO4Hxq6JwTtxuWtxCA@mail.gmail.com&g=
t;<br>
<br>
If there isn't a way of banning Dave Northrup from this list, please =
delete<br>
me from it.&nbsp; I want nothing to do with mindless rants like his.<br>
<br>
Art Fournier<br>
<br>
</div>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:13:42 -0500<br>
From: &lt;rjray.architect@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: "'Dave MacKay'" &lt;dave@mdmackay.ca&gt;, =
&lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 121<br>
charset=3D"us-ascii"<br>
<br>
David Nothrup is the same guy that accused Albert of torching his =
own<br>
business, The Roadster Factory, which is why I avoid reading =
anything<br>
Northrup&nbsp; post.<br>
<br>
I too, thank Dave Massey, for speaking up for most of us.<br>
<br>
&nbsp; Ron<br>
<br>
------------------------------<br>
<br>
Message: 5<br>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 19:55:24 +0000<br>
From: Michael Marr &lt;mmarr@albiontechnical.com&gt;<br>
To: dave northrup &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt;<br>
Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA<br>
&lt;C05CBFE0-5C42-4109-B2D3-AF15AA6C58D4@albiontechnical.com&gt;<br>
<br>
Please stop. You?re embarrassing yourself.<br>
<br>
Mike,<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
On Jul 3, 2026, at 22:36, dave northrup &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt; =
wrote:<br>
<br>
?<br>
England ceased being a power what?&nbsp; 250 years ago?&nbsp; They had a =
great 1000 years or so, but have slid into socialism, despite Margaret =
Thatcher and are being taken over by the Muslims.&nbsp; They are =
irrelevant in the world order<br>
<br>
William and Kate were the best thing to come out of that country but =
Charles has worked hard to make them irrelevant.<br>
<br>
From: Triumphs &lt;triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; On Behalf Of =
CAROLINE MCGAHEY<br>
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 8:52 AM<br>
To: auprichard uprichard.net &lt;auprichard@uprichard.net&gt;<br>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; John Macartney =
&lt;johnbmacartney@gmx.com&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA<br>
<br>
No.<br>
The cars were made in England and their biggest market was in the USA. =
British-American relations are therefore relevant.<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
</div>

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