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Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 122

To: John Reed <jr468@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 122
From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2026 09:12:33 -0400
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Come on people! We=E2=80=99re better than all this. In any group, there wil=
l be
some who get out of line from time to time but we don=E2=80=99t lose sight =
of what
we=E2=80=99re all about and make rash judgements/statements.

Let=E2=80=99s get back to LBC talk and focus on that which we all enjoy!! =
=F0=9F=98=80

Dave Friedlander


On Mon, Jul 6, 2026 at 9:03=E2=80=AFAM John Reed <jr468@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I=E2=80=99m unsubscribing.  Political discussions are fine in their place=
, but I
> certainly don=E2=80=99t want to read hate filled rants when I open an ema=
il to read
> about Triumphs.   Thanks to those of you who spoke up about it.
>
> I joined Scions of Lucas in 1990 and the Triumph list several years later
> when it was it formed.  The information has been very helpful (Randall
> Young was a treasure) and it's been a great way to escape to the happy
> world of Triumphs even when I=E2=80=99m stuck at a computer.  I=E2=80=99l=
l miss reading the
> emails from the many good and interesting people on this list.
>
> Farewell,
> John
>
> =E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=
=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:56:31 -0400
> From: Dave MacKay <dave@mdmackay.ca>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 121
> Message-ID: <207789c2b2a529778ab01257a9a3801b@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8"
>
> Thank you Dave.
>
> Before seeing your message I was about to unsubscribe (after having been
> on the list for >30 years).
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave MacKay
> 1960 TR3A s/n 68639L
> near Toronto, Canada
>
> >Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 11:28:43 +0000 (UTC)
> >From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> >To: "auprichard uprichard.net" <auprichard@uprichard.net>,
> >       John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>,
> >       dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
> >Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA
> >
> >There is no place on this list for this kind of arrogant, xenophobic
> invective rants.? You do not speak for a majority of Americans and
> certainly not me!? Only a small, vocal minority have drunk the koolaid.?
> Put a sock in it.
> >Dave
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:58:05 -0400
> From: Arthur Fournier <artfournier4@gmail.com>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA
> Message-ID:
>         <CAF2RLw7v2OWC42+FH9Z=3D
> Kpjxanom6W9SjO4Hxq6JwTtxuWtxCA@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>
> If there isn't a way of banning Dave Northrup from this list, please dele=
te
> me from it.  I want nothing to do with mindless rants like his.
>
> Art Fournier
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:13:42 -0500
> From: <rjray.architect@gmail.com>
> To: "'Dave MacKay'" <dave@mdmackay.ca>, <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 121
> Message-ID: <02eb01dd0be9$3a81bf10$af853d30$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> David Nothrup is the same guy that accused Albert of torching his own
> business, The Roadster Factory, which is why I avoid reading anything
> Northrup  post.
>
> I too, thank Dave Massey, for speaking up for most of us.
>
>   Ron
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 19:55:24 +0000
> From: Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com>
> To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
> Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA
> Message-ID: <C05CBFE0-5C42-4109-B2D3-AF15AA6C58D4@albiontechnical.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>
> Please stop. You?re embarrassing yourself.
>
> Mike,
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 3, 2026, at 22:36, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> England ceased being a power what?  250 years ago?  They had a great 1000
> years or so, but have slid into socialism, despite Margaret Thatcher and
> are being taken over by the Muslims.  They are irrelevant in the world or=
der
>
> William and Kate were the best thing to come out of that country but
> Charles has worked hard to make them irrelevant.
>
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of CAROLINE
> MCGAHEY
> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 8:52 AM
> To: auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA
>
> No.
> The cars were made in England and their biggest market was in the USA.
> British-American relations are therefore relevant.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Come on people! We=E2=80=99re better than all this. In an=
y group, there will be some who get out of line from time to time but we do=
n=E2=80=99t lose sight of what we=E2=80=99re all about and make rash judgem=
ents/statements.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">L=
et=E2=80=99s get back to LBC talk and focus on that which we all enjoy!! =
=F0=9F=98=80</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Dave Friedl=
ander=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 6, 2026 at 9:03=E2=80=AFAM John Reed &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:jr468@hotmail.com";>jr468@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



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<div style=3D"direction:ltr;font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
I=E2=80=99m unsubscribing.=C2=A0 Political discussions are fine in their pl=
ace, but I certainly don=E2=80=99t want to read hate filled rants when I op=
en an email to read about Triumphs. =C2=A0 Thanks to those of you who spoke=
 up about it.</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr;font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr;font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
I joined Scions of Lucas in 1990 and the Triumph list several years later w=
hen it was it formed.=C2=A0 The information has been very helpful (Randall =
Young was a treasure) and it&#39;s been a great way to escape to the happy =
world of Triumphs even when I=E2=80=99m stuck at
 a computer.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ll miss reading the emails from the many good =
and interesting people on this list. =C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr;font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr;font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
Farewell,</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr;font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
John</div>
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nt-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
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nt-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
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<br>
Message: 1<br>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:56:31 -0400<br>
From: Dave MacKay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@mdmackay.ca"; target=3D"_blank"=
>dave@mdmackay.ca</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs@a=
utox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 121<br>
il.com" target=3D"_blank">207789c2b2a529778ab01257a9a3801b@mail.gmail.com</=
a>&gt;<br>
<br>
Thank you Dave.<br>
<br>
Before seeing your message I was about to unsubscribe (after having been<br=
>
on the list for &gt;30 years).<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Dave MacKay<br>
1960 TR3A s/n 68639L<br>
near Toronto, Canada<br>
<br>
&gt;Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 11:28:43 +0000 (UTC)<br>
&gt;From: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;To: &quot;auprichard <a href=3D"http://uprichard.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>uprichard.net</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>&gt;,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:johnbmacartney@gmx.com" target=3D"_blank">johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a>&gt;=
,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:dave@ranteer.com" target=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;There is no place on this list for this kind of arrogant, xenophobic<br=
>
invective rants.? You do not speak for a majority of Americans and<br>
certainly not me!? Only a small, vocal minority have drunk the koolaid.?<br=
>
Put a sock in it.<br>
&gt;Dave<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
Message: 2<br>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:58:05 -0400<br>
From: Arthur Fournier &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:artfournier4@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">artfournier4@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs@a=
utox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA<br>
Message-ID:<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &lt;CAF2RLw7v2OWC42+FH9Z=3D<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:Kpjxanom6W9SjO4Hxq6JwTtxuWtxCA@mail.gmail.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k">Kpjxanom6W9SjO4Hxq6JwTtxuWtxCA@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
If there isn&#39;t a way of banning Dave Northrup from this list, please de=
lete<br>
me from it.=C2=A0 I want nothing to do with mindless rants like his.<br>
<br>
Art Fournier<br>
<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:13:42 -0500<br>
From: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rjray.architect@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rj=
ray.architect@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: &quot;&#39;Dave MacKay&#39;&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@mdmackay.c=
a" target=3D"_blank">dave@mdmackay.ca</a>&gt;, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triump=
hs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 121<br>
" target=3D"_blank">gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
ot;us-ascii&quot;<br>
<br>
David Nothrup is the same guy that accused Albert of torching his own<br>
business, The Roadster Factory, which is why I avoid reading anything<br>
Northrup=C2=A0 post.<br>
<br>
I too, thank Dave Massey, for speaking up for most of us.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 Ron<br>
<br>
------------------------------<br>
<br>
Message: 5<br>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 19:55:24 +0000<br>
From: Michael Marr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
>dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triu=
mphs@autox.team.net</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA<br>
ontechnical.com" target=3D"_blank">C05CBFE0-5C42-4109-B2D3-AF15AA6C58D4@alb=
iontechnical.com</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
Please stop. You?re embarrassing yourself.<br>
<br>
Mike,<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
On Jul 3, 2026, at 22:36, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.=
com" target=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
?<br>
England ceased being a power what?=C2=A0 250 years ago?=C2=A0 They had a gr=
eat 1000 years or so, but have slid into socialism, despite Margaret Thatch=
er and are being taken over by the Muslims.=C2=A0 They are irrelevant in th=
e world order<br>
<br>
William and Kate were the best thing to come out of that country but Charle=
s has worked hard to make them irrelevant.<br>
<br>
From: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of CAROLINE =
MCGAHEY<br>
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 8:52 AM<br>
To: auprichard <a href=3D"http://uprichard.net"; target=3D"_blank">uprichard=
.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net"; target=3D"_blank">=
auprichard@uprichard.net</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs@a=
utox.team.net</a>; John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.=
com" target=3D"_blank">johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA<br>
<br>
No.<br>
The cars were made in England and their biggest market was in the USA. Brit=
ish-American relations are therefore relevant.<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
<br>
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