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To: Dave MacKay <dave@mdmackay.ca>
Subject: Re: [TR] gage question
From: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 19:15:11 -0700
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I=E2=80=99ll see if I still have a box to get the part number  If I =
don=E2=80=99t, I=E2=80=99ll see if I can find my order on their website. =
 Give me a day.

And yeah, it=E2=80=99s pretty similar as you can see as I put the =
original oil pressure gauge in the photo.

Rye

> On Mar 16, 2025, at 5:54 PM, Dave MacKay <dave@mdmackay.ca> wrote:
>=20
> Rye, which gauge did you find that fits your TR3 and looks consistent =
with the others? AutoMeter has a lot to choose from!
> =20
> Dave
> =20
> 1960 TR3A s/n 68639
> near Toronto, Canada
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> Sent: March 16, 2025 8:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [TR] gage question
> =20
> This is why I=E2=80=99m going with AutoMeter.  Very similar looking =
gauges as original.
> =20
> Rye
> =20
> =20
> <image001.jpg>
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>> On Mar 16, 2025, at 4:27 PM, Dave MacKay <dave@mdmackay.ca =
>> =20
>> My vote would be to replace the temperature gauge with an electronic =
one,
>> if you can find one that looks consistent with the other gauges in =
the
>> cluster.
>>=20
>> The old-style gauge is expensive to repair and complicates working on =
the
>> cluster.
>>=20
>> Dave
>>=20
>> 1960 TR3A s/n 68639
>> near Toronto, Canada
>>=20
>> Message: 1
>>=20
>>> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 00:06:49 +0000
>>> Subject: [TR] gage question
>>>=20
>>> I have a 59TR3a that will be far from original so that's not an =
issue,
>> including a TR4a engine that's been worked.
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> We just pulled the small gage cluster to rework it.  All the gages =
are
>> out and will be sent to West Valley Instruments to be =
refurbished/rebuilt.
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I have the option of keeping the temperature gage as is (I checked =
and it
>> will thread into the rebuilt engine) or having it redone as an =
electric
>> gage.
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I kind of like the funny old gage with its funny old piping that =
goes
>> through the engine compartment.  On the other hand, electric is =
simpler
>> and probably cheaper.
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Since the car has an alternator and backup lights off the TR6 OD =
tranny,
>> wiring isn't an issue.
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Just looking for opinions - keep the TR3a style or go electric?
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ll see if I still have a box to get the part number =
&nbsp;If I don=E2=80=99t, I=E2=80=99ll see if I can find my order on =
their website. &nbsp;Give me a day.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">And yeah, it=E2=80=99s pretty similar =
as you can see as I put the original oil pressure gauge in the photo.<br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Rye<br =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Mar 16, 2025, at 5:54 PM, Dave MacKay &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@mdmackay.ca"; class=3D"">dave@mdmackay.ca</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">Rye, =
which gauge did you find that fits your TR3 and looks consistent with =
the others? AutoMeter has a lot to choose from!</span></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt;" class=3D"">Dave</span></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:=
 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">1960 TR3A s/n 68639<br class=3D"">near Toronto, Canada<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: =
solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, =
225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Rye =
Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">ryel@mac.com</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>March 16, 2025 8:39 PM<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Dave MacKay &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@mdmackay.ca"; style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: =
underline;" class=3D"">dave@mdmackay.ca</a>&gt;; dave northrup &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: =
underline;" class=3D"">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [TR] gage =
question</span></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">This is why I=E2=80=99m going with AutoMeter.&nbsp; Very =
similar looking gauges as original.</div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Aptos, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Rye</div></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span =
id=3D"cid:image001.jpg@01DB96B5.916AE3B0">&lt;image001.jpg&gt;</span><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">On Mar 16, 2025, at 4:27 PM, Dave MacKay &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@mdmackay.ca"; style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: =
underline;" class=3D"">dave@mdmackay.ca</a>&gt; wrote:</div></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Aptos, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</p><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">My vote would be to replace the temperature gauge with an =
electronic one,<br class=3D"">if you can find one that looks consistent =
with the other gauges in the<br class=3D"">cluster.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">The old-style gauge is expensive to repair and complicates =
working on the<br class=3D"">cluster.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Dave<br=
 class=3D""><br class=3D"">1960 TR3A s/n 68639<br class=3D"">near =
Toronto, Canada<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Message: 1<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: =
5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 =
00:06:49 +0000<br class=3D"">From: dave northrup &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: =
underline;" class=3D"">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: =
[TR] gage question<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I have a 59TR3a that =
will be far from original so that's not an issue,</div></blockquote><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">including a TR4a engine that's been worked.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: =
5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">We just =
pulled the small gage cluster to rework it.&nbsp; All the gages =
are</div></blockquote><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=3D"">out and will be sent to West =
Valley Instruments to be refurbished/rebuilt.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: =
5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">I have =
the option of keeping the temperature gage as is (I checked and =
it</div></blockquote><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=3D"">will thread into the rebuilt =
engine) or having it redone as an electric<br class=3D"">gage.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I kind of like the funny old gage with its funny old piping =
that goes</div></blockquote><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=3D"">through the engine =
compartment.&nbsp; On the other hand, electric is simpler<br =
class=3D"">and probably cheaper.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: =
5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">Since =
the car has an alternator and backup lights off the TR6 OD =
tranny,</div></blockquote><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=3D"">wiring isn't an issue.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Just looking for opinions - keep the TR3a style or go =
electric?</div></blockquote><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; =
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