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Re: [TR] Carburetors

To: David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Carburetors
From: alan salvatore <alansalvy@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 19:18:06 -0400
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I 've rebuilt many Strombergs, I just rebuilt the ones on my TR250.  I had
one carb spilling gas all over.
The needle valve was hanging up right out of the box. Replaced the needle
valve and all was good.  There seems to be problems with some of the new
needle valves.
Easy fix.

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 3:20=E2=80=AFPM David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com> =
wrote:

> Take a close look at the choke fast idle cam being fully off and that
> the chokes themselves are working properly... must be removed to check..
> DaveP
>
> On 9/28/2023 6:57 PM, Frank Burkhart wrote:
> > Hope this email is appropriate to send.  I=E2=80=99m hoping that someon=
e out in
> Triumph world can provide some clarification on carburetors.  Currently,
> Zenith Stromberg carbs on my 1975 TR6.  The car has been running poorly
> since Trimphest (too many RPMs?).  And then it died completely but turned
> out to need a new rotor.  Asked the mechanic, Mike, to take a look at the
> everything to figure out what can be made better.  What he found was the
> carbs were dumping gas into the cylinders especially when starting, to th=
e
> point the gas was washing down the cylinder walls preventing the rings fr=
om
> sealing.  Result was a lot of white smoke.
> >
> > The carbs were rebuilt about 18 months ago by Apple Hydraulics in New
> York.  Supposedly all new parts including a new piston in one of the
> carbs.  Mechanic Mike is questioning the quality but . . .  Several paths
> to try:
> >
> > 1.  New needles and basic over haul.  Least expensive but maybe stopgap
> measure.
> >
> > 2.  Rebuild these carbs using a different shop.  Mike recommends a shop
> in Colorado. I=E2=80=99m would worry about a 2nd rebuild in short period =
of time.
> >
> > 3.  Replace the carbs.
> > 3a.  Mike has a pair of SU carbs in good shape.  Mike would replace
> =E2=80=9Cconsumables=E2=80=9D and install
> >
> > 3b.  Find a pair Stromberg carbs
> >
> > 3c.  Mike likes carbs by Mikuni
> >
> > 3c.  Replace with Webers
> >
> > Any ideas / suggestions on what path seems the best?
> >
> > Hope all the world is going well for all.  Hope to see everyone at
> Velocity.
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Frank Burkhart
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I &#39;ve rebuilt many Strombergs, I just rebuilt the ones=
 on my TR250.=C2=A0 I had one carb spilling gas all over.<div>The needle va=
lve was hanging up right out of the box. Replaced the needle valve and all =
was good.=C2=A0 There seems to be problems with some of the new needle valv=
es.</div><div>Easy fix.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 3:20=E2=80=AFPM David =
P &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:frogeye@porterscustom.com";>frogeye@porterscustom.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
>Take a close look at the choke fast idle cam being fully off and that <br>
the chokes themselves are working properly... must be removed to check.. <b=
r>
DaveP<br>
<br>
On 9/28/2023 6:57 PM, Frank Burkhart wrote:<br>
&gt; Hope this email is appropriate to send.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m hoping that =
someone out in Triumph world can provide some clarification on carburetors.=
=C2=A0 Currently, Zenith Stromberg carbs on my 1975 TR6.=C2=A0 The car has =
been running poorly since Trimphest (too many RPMs?).=C2=A0 And then it die=
d completely but turned out to need a new rotor.=C2=A0 Asked the mechanic, =
Mike, to take a look at the everything to figure out what can be made bette=
r.=C2=A0 What he found was the carbs were dumping gas into the cylinders es=
pecially when starting, to the point the gas was washing down the cylinder =
walls preventing the rings from sealing.=C2=A0 Result was a lot of white sm=
oke.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The carbs were rebuilt about 18 months ago by Apple Hydraulics in New =
York.=C2=A0 Supposedly all new parts including a new piston in one of the c=
arbs.=C2=A0 Mechanic Mike is questioning the quality but . . .=C2=A0 Severa=
l paths to try:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1.=C2=A0 New needles and basic over haul.=C2=A0 Least expensive but ma=
ybe stopgap measure.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2.=C2=A0 Rebuild these carbs using a different shop.=C2=A0 Mike recomm=
ends a shop in Colorado. I=E2=80=99m would worry about a 2nd rebuild in sho=
rt period of time.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 3.=C2=A0 Replace the carbs.<br>
&gt; 3a.=C2=A0 Mike has a pair of SU carbs in good shape.=C2=A0 Mike would =
replace =E2=80=9Cconsumables=E2=80=9D and install<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 3b.=C2=A0 Find a pair Stromberg carbs<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 3c.=C2=A0 Mike likes carbs by Mikuni<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 3c.=C2=A0 Replace with Webers<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Any ideas / suggestions on what path seems the best?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hope all the world is going well for all.=C2=A0 Hope to see everyone a=
t Velocity.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thank you,<br>
&gt; Frank Burkhart<br>
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