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RE dating. I've mentioned this before. A local bank was financing MG's and =
Heley's for a local dealer.=C2=A0 At the end of the Sept. ( or thereabouts =
) the dealer would change all the in stock inventory to the next model year=
. The bank was notified and it would also change the model year for the inv=
entory they had financed. Thus, with a stroke of a pen, the new models had =
arrived. I'm guessing something similar happened with the Tigers.
In a message dated 2/20/2025 10:17:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@auto=
x.team.net writes:=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 02:50:20 PM PDT, Theo Smit =
<tsmit@shaw.ca> wrote:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0The last mk1A was B382002706 and it=
was built right at the end of =C2=A0December 1966. They had already starte=
d Mk2 production at that point (in September? I forget, offhand) and those =
last 12 Mk1A were probably bodies that had gotten put to the side when they=
needed to get the Mk2 production going. Then someone realized that those b=
odies represented sunk cost and finishing them would put cash on the table.=
=C2=A0Anyway, the =E2=80=982400 range of Mk1A production was early enough i=
n the year that some of them could have been shipped to the US and sold bef=
ore the end of 1966.=C2=A0Cheers,Theo
On Aug 16, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Stu <sabre2tgr@gmail.com> wrote:
Another data point:=C2=A0 According to TBON, my Tiger was assembled in the =
late summer of '66.=C2=A0 It was first sold in NY in Feb of '67, so it has =
always been registered as a '67.=C2=A0Stu
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 4:06=E2=80=AFPM Will Seay via Tigers <tigers@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
My MK1A is registered in VA as 1966/67.=C2=A0 This characterization probabl=
y came from the dealer.=C2=A0 It was common back then to give a foreign car=
the benefit of the doubt when registering, assuming that the same car mode=
l would be produced the next year.=C2=A0 In my case this was clearly an err=
or because the MKII, introduced in '67, was not the same car as was produce=
d in '66.=C2=A0Will - 382001570=20
Tigers@embarqmail.com
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 1:56=E2=80=AFPM D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
=C2=A0Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or still does, go by the registration date. =
Have a 1942 Jeep that stated it was 1950.=C2=A0David Franchi=C2=A0On Friday=
, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wro=
te:=C2=A0=C2=A0
1st =E2=80=93 no idea on the brass tag =E2=80=93 one would think it should =
have something stamped on it.
=C2=A0
Drmayf
Yes the vin tag is near the end of the MK 1A Tigers build.
=C2=A0
I have been told that back in the day Tigers had registration dates accordi=
ng to year they were 1st register in the states not by the year the Tiger w=
as built.
=C2=A0
Ron Fraser
=C2=A0
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM
To: 'Jay Laifman' <jay.laifman@gmail.com>; 'Tiger's Den' <tigers@autox.team=
.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT
=C2=A0
I don=E2=80=99t know about the tag on the fuel line, but the date the car i=
s advertised as a 1966 does not go with the vin number.=C2=A0 The B382 is=
=C2=A0 for a Mk 1A is it not? Rivets look OEM also.=C2=A0 My 1966 (register=
ed in Ventura CA in 1966 as it was sold new and the vin on it is B9471136 a=
nd I am the second owner having purchased it used in Santa Maria, Ca in Jan=
1967 second hand (yeah, have owned my car since then never changed hands a=
nd has always been registered).=C2=A0 This car also has the long shifter as=
well which I think does go with vin number, But somebody smarter than me c=
ould check that out. .=20
=C2=A0
Interesting that a small brass tag can generate some curiosity, eh?=20
=C2=A0
Drmayf aka Lawrence
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
<image003.png>
=C2=A0
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifma=
n
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM
To: Tiger's Den <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT
=C2=A0
Watching the Tiger on BAT?=C2=A0 The owner says it had a brass tag on the f=
uel line from new and he and his dad have never known what it was.=C2=A0 An=
yone know?
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
<image004.png>
=C2=A0
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-50-2/
=C2=A0
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<div class=3D"userEdit" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, h=
elvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);=
font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;">RE dating. I've mentioned this bef=
ore. A local bank was financing MG's and Heley's for a local dealer. =
At the end of the Sept. ( or thereabouts ) the dealer would change all the =
in stock inventory to the next model year. The bank was notified and it wou=
ld also change the model year for the inventory they had financed. Thus, wi=
th a stroke of a pen, the new models had arrived. </span></div>
<div class=3D"userEdit" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, h=
elvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);=
font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;">I'm guessing something similar hap=
pened with the Tigers.<br></span></div>
<br>In a message dated 2/20/2025 10:17:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@=
autox.team.net writes:
<div> </div>
<div class=3D"quotedReply">
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: blue=
2px solid;">
<div id=3D"yiv9538596874">
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y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;">
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<div> </div>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyahoo_quoted_0340710124" class=3D"yiv953=
8596874ydpc4d03eabyahoo_quoted">
<div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; =
font-size: 13px; color: #26282a;">
<div>On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 02:50:20 PM PDT, Theo Smit <tsmit@sha=
w.ca> wrote:</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div id=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The last mk1A was B382002706 and it was built right at the=
end of December 1966. They had already started Mk2 production at tha=
t point (in September? I forget, offhand) and those last 12 Mk1A were proba=
bly bodies that had gotten put to the side when they needed to get the Mk2 =
production going. Then someone realized that those bodies represented sunk =
cost and finishing them would put cash on the table. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Anyway, the ‘2400 range of Mk1A production was early=
enough in the year that some of them could have been shipped to the US and=
sold before the end of 1966. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Theo</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote>On Aug 16, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Stu <sabre2tgr@gmail.com> wr=
ote:<br><br></blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size: small;">Another data point: According to TBON, my Tiger wa=
s assembled in the late summer of '66. It was first sold in NY in Feb=
of '67, so it has always been registered as a '67.</div>
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size: small;"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size: small;">Stu</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">=
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 4:06=E2=80=AFPM Will Seay via Tigers <<a href=3D=
"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener n=
oreferrer">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,204,204); pa=
dding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size: small;">My MK1A is registered in VA as 1966/67. This chara=
cterization probably came from the dealer. It was common back then to=
give a foreign car the benefit of the doubt when registering, assuming tha=
t the same car model would be produced the next year. In my case this=
was clearly an error because the MKII, introduced in '67, was not the same=
car as was produced in '66.</div>
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size: small;"> </div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_signature" dir=3D"=
ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">Tigers@embarqmai=
l.com</a></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">=
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 1:56=E2=80=AFPM D or G at sbc via Tigers <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopen=
er noreferrer">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,204,204); pa=
dding-left: 1ex;">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;">
<div> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or still does, go by the registra=
tion date. Have a 1942 Jeep that stated it was 1950.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
David Franchi</div>
</div>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-2410958755070881963m_837=
1637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yahoo_quoted_4450991725">
<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; c=
olor: rgb(38,40,42);">
<div>On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron Fraser <<a href=
=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener=
noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div id=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-2410958755070881963m_837=
1637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784">
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">1<sup>st</sup>=
– no idea on the brass tag – one would think it should have so=
mething stamped on it.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"> </span>=
</p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">Drmayf</span><=
/p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">Yes the vin ta=
g is near the end of the MK 1A Tigers build.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"> </span>=
</p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">I have been to=
ld that back in the day Tigers had registration dates according to year the=
y were 1<sup>st</sup> register in the states not by the year the Tiger was =
built.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"> </span>=
</p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">Ron Fraser</sp=
an></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"> </span>=
</p>
<div id=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-2410958755070881963m_837=
1637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784yqt53683">
<div>
<div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none non=
e; border-color: rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor; padding: 3pt 0=
in 0in;">
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">From:<=
/span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"> T=
igers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>=
; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Larry Mayfield<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Se=
nt:</strong> Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM<br clear=3D"none"><strong>To:<=
/strong> 'Jay Laifman' <<a href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;; 'Tiger's Den' <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><b=
r clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT=
</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p> </p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);">I don’t know about the tag on the fuel line, but the date th=
e car is advertised as a 1966 does not go with the vin number. The B3=
82 is for a Mk 1A is it not? Rivets look OEM also. My 1966 (reg=
istered in Ventura CA in 1966 as it was sold new and the vin on it is B9471=
136 and I am the second owner having purchased it used in Santa Maria, Ca i=
n Jan 1967 second hand (yeah, have owned my car since then never changed ha=
nds and has always been registered). This car also has the long shift=
er as well which I think does go with vin number, But somebody smarter than=
me could check that out. . </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);">Interesting that a small brass tag can generate some curiosity, eh=
? </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);">Drmayf aka Lawrence</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);"> </span></p>
<p> </p>
<div><image003.png></div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);"> </span></p>
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">From:<=
/span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"> T=
igers [<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" r=
el=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">mailto:tigers-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Jay Laifman<br clear=3D"non=
e"><strong>Sent:</strong> Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM<br clear=3D"none"=
><strong>To:</strong> Tiger's Den <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.n=
et" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">t=
igers@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> [T=
igers] Tag on Tiger on BAT</span></p>
<p> </p>
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1637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784yqt19031">
<p>Watching the Tiger on BAT? The owner says it had a brass tag on th=
e fuel line from new and he and his dad have never known what it was. =
Anyone know?</p>
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<p> </p>
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<div>
<p> </p>
<div><image004.png></div>
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<p> </p>
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arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">https:=
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