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To: Tiger's Den <tigers@autox.team.net>, Theo Smit <tsmit@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT
From: Terry Packer via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 15:08:57 +0000 (UTC)
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    On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 02:50:20 PM PDT, Theo Smit <tsmit@shaw.ca=
> wrote: =20
=20
 The last mk1A was B382002706 and it was built right at the end of =C2=A0De=
cember 1966. They had already started Mk2 production at that point (in Sept=
ember? I forget, offhand) and those last 12 Mk1A were probably bodies that =
had gotten put to the side when they needed to get the Mk2 production going=
. Then someone realized that those bodies represented sunk cost and finishi=
ng them would put cash on the table.=C2=A0Anyway, the =E2=80=982400 range o=
f Mk1A production was early enough in the year that some of them could have=
 been shipped to the US and sold before the end of 1966.=C2=A0Cheers,Theo

On Aug 16, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Stu <sabre2tgr@gmail.com> wrote:



=EF=BB=BFAnother data point:=C2=A0 According to TBON, my Tiger was assemble=
d in the late summer of '66.=C2=A0 It was first sold in NY in Feb of '67, s=
o it has always been registered as a '67.
Stu
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 4:06=E2=80=AFPM Will Seay via Tigers <tigers@autox.=
team.net> wrote:

My MK1A is registered in VA as 1966/67.=C2=A0 This characterization probabl=
y came from the dealer.=C2=A0 It was common back then to give a foreign car=
 the benefit of the doubt when registering, assuming that the same car mode=
l would be produced the next year.=C2=A0 In my case this was clearly an err=
or because the MKII, introduced in '67, was not the same car as was produce=
d in '66.
Will - 382001570=20
Tigers@embarqmail.com

On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 1:56=E2=80=AFPM D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:

 Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or still does, go by the registration date. Have =
a 1942 Jeep that stated it was 1950.
David Franchi

    On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron Fraser <rfraser@blue=
frog.com> wrote: =20
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1st =E2=80=93 no idea on the brass tag =E2=80=93 one would think it should =
have something stamped on it.

 =C2=A0

Drmayf

Yes the vin tag is near the end of the MK 1A Tigers build.

 =C2=A0

I have been told that back in the day Tigers had registration dates accordi=
ng to year they were 1st register in the states not by the year the Tiger w=
as built.

 =C2=A0

Ron Fraser

 =C2=A0

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM
To: 'Jay Laifman' <jay.laifman@gmail.com>; 'Tiger's Den' <tigers@autox.team=
.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT

 =C2=A0

I don=E2=80=99t know about the tag on the fuel line, but the date the car i=
s advertised as a 1966 does not go with the vin number.=C2=A0 The B382 is=
=C2=A0 for a Mk 1A is it not? Rivets look OEM also.=C2=A0 My 1966 (register=
ed in Ventura CA in 1966 as it was sold new and the vin on it is B9471136 a=
nd I am the second owner having purchased it used in Santa Maria, Ca in Jan=
 1967 second hand (yeah, have owned my car since then never changed hands a=
nd has always been registered).=C2=A0 This car also has the long shifter as=
 well which I think does go with vin number, But somebody smarter than me c=
ould check that out. .=20

 =C2=A0

Interesting that a small brass tag can generate some curiosity, eh?=20

 =C2=A0

Drmayf aka Lawrence

 =C2=A0


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 =C2=A0

From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifma=
n
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM
To: Tiger's Den <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT

 =C2=A0

Watching the Tiger on BAT?=C2=A0 The owner says it had a brass tag on the f=
uel line from new and he and his dad have never known what it was.=C2=A0 An=
yone know?

 =C2=A0


<image004.png>
 =C2=A0

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-50-2/

 =C2=A0
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                        On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 02:50:20 PM PDT, Theo=
 Smit &lt;tsmit@shaw.ca&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The last mk1A was B382002706 and it was built r=
ight at the end of &nbsp;December 1966. They had already started Mk2 produc=
tion at that point (in September? I forget, offhand) and those last 12 Mk1A=
 were probably bodies that had gotten put to the side when they needed to g=
et the Mk2 production going. Then someone realized that those bodies repres=
ented sunk cost and finishing them would put cash on the table.&nbsp;</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Anyway, the =E2=80=982400 range of Mk1A production was ear=
ly enough in the year that some of them could have been shipped to the US a=
nd sold before the end of 1966.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Theo</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On =
Aug 16, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Stu &lt;sabre2tgr@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></b=
lockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386=
gmail_default">Another data point:&nbsp; According to TBON, my Tiger was as=
sembled in the late summer of '66.&nbsp; It was first sold in NY in Feb of =
'67, so it has always been registered as a '67.</div><div style=3D"font-siz=
e:small;" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default"><br></div><div st=
yle=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default">St=
u</div></div><br><div class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 16, 2024=
 at 4:06=E2=80=AFPM Will Seay via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox=
.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv983789=
6386gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"=
ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default">My MK1A is registered in VA as 1966/=
67.&nbsp; This characterization probably came from the dealer.&nbsp; It was=
 common back then to give a foreign car the benefit of the doubt when regis=
tering, assuming that the same car model would be produced the next year.&n=
bsp; In my case this was clearly an error because the MKII, introduced in '=
67, was not the same car as was produced in '66.</div><div style=3D"font-si=
ze:small;" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default"><br></div><div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_signature"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com"; rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@embarqmail.com</a></div></div></div>=
<br></div><br><div class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 =
at 1:56=E2=80=AFPM D or G at sbc via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@au=
tox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv983=
7896386gmail_quote"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-s=
erif;font-size:18px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or =
still does, go by the registration date. Have a 1942 Jeep that stated it wa=
s 1950.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>David Franchi</div><br></div><div><=
br></div>
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71637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yahoo_quoted_4450991725">
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                        On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron =
Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-2410958755070881=
963m_8371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784"><div><div><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">1<sup>st</sup> =E2=80=93 no ide=
a on the brass tag =E2=80=93 one would think it should have something stamp=
ed on it.</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif=
;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-seri=
f;">Drmayf</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-seri=
f;">Yes the vin tag is near the end of the MK 1A Tigers build.</span></p><p=
><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p><=
p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I have been told t=
hat back in the day Tigers had registration dates according to year they we=
re 1<sup>st</sup> register in the states not by the year the Tiger was buil=
t.</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Ron=
 Fraser</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;"=
> &nbsp;</span></p><div id=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-241095875507088196=
3m_8371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784yqt53683"><div><div style=3D"=
border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rg=
b(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0in 0in;"><p><b><span =
style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers-bo=
unces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry Mayfield<br clear=3D=
"none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To=
:</b> 'Jay Laifman' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nof=
ollow" target=3D"_blank">jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>&gt;; 'Tiger's Den' &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers=
] Tag on Tiger on BAT</span></p></div></div><p> &nbsp;</p><p><span style=3D=
"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);">I don=E2=80=
=99t know about the tag on the fuel line, but the date the car is advertise=
d as a 1966 does not go with the vin number.&nbsp; The B382 is&nbsp; for a =
Mk 1A is it not? Rivets look OEM also.&nbsp; My 1966 (registered in Ventura=
 CA in 1966 as it was sold new and the vin on it is B9471136 and I am the s=
econd owner having purchased it used in Santa Maria, Ca in Jan 1967 second =
hand (yeah, have owned my car since then never changed hands and has always=
 been registered).&nbsp; This car also has the long shifter as well which I=
 think does go with vin number, But somebody smarter than me could check th=
at out. . </span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-seri=
f;color:rgb(31,73,125);"> &nbsp;</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt=
;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);">Interesting that a small bra=
ss tag can generate some curiosity, eh? </span></p><p><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);"> &nbsp;</span></p><p=
><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);=
">Drmayf aka Lawrence</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-famil=
y:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);"> &nbsp;</span></p><p><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);"></span></p><div>&=
lt;image003.png&gt;</div><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-=
serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);"> &nbsp;</span></p><p><b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Tigers [<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tige=
rs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">mailto:tigers=
-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jay Laifman<br clear=3D"no=
ne"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</=
b> Tiger's Den &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT</span></p><p> &nbsp;=
</p></div><div><div id=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-2410958755070881963m_8=
371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784yqt19031"><p>Watching the Tiger o=
n BAT?&nbsp; The owner says it had a brass tag on the fuel line from new an=
d he and his dad have never known what it was.&nbsp; Anyone know?</p><div><=
p> &nbsp;</p></div><div><p></p><div>&lt;image004.png&gt;</div></div><div><p=
> &nbsp;</p></div><div><p><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://bringatrailer.c=
om/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-50-2/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">htt=
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