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Re: [Tigers] Clutch Master cylinder

To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net> reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 FILETIME=[1D59E350:01DA05C4]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch Master cylinder
From: Will Seay via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 11:17:23 -0400
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B382001570 came with a spring

Will - 382001570
Tigers@embarqmail.com


On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 10:52=E2=80=AFPM GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.=
net>
wrote:

> I have it on good authority(Paul Reisentz) that Tigers never came with th=
e
> return spring.
>
> When I bought B94790622 in 1971 it already had one.
>
> If you don't have a return spring, you have a self-adjusting clutch which
> IIRC the shop manual says
> it is..?
> Mine has a hole punched in the frame rail for the spring, no tab, rivets
> or anything.  My spring is
> much lighter than the ones Paul used to install but has always worked fin=
e
> for me.
> Gary
>
>
>
> > On 10/21/2023 12:16 PM PDT H B Elam via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On both B382002021 & B382000471 there was 1) a hole on the clutch
> actuating arm and 2) a tab pop riveted to the driver side frame rail with=
 a
> suitable sized hole. The two allowed an external spring to be connected
> between them to assist in fully returning the piston to the fully returne=
d
> position against the piston dome.
> > B382002027 came with the spring and was never any problem.
> >
> > B382000471 did not have the spring and had a screaming throw out bearin=
g
> when the clutch was engaged on the entire trip in 1983 from Arizona to
> Virginia. Without determining the cause, I replaced the throw out bearing
> while doing other engine work. Years later in 1991 on a vacation trip the
> bearing began screaming again. This time I remembered the spring and foun=
d
> a suitable replacement. To date there has never been another problem in
> another 20K miles driving.
> >
> > I have official parts listing books for all Tigers. I am also TAC
> inspector #37. Never have I found a part list that included the spring an=
d
> only rarely have I found a spring or pop riveted tab installed during a T=
AC.
> >
> > Harry Elam
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">B38=
2001570 came with a spring</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
size:small"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-=
smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570 <br><a href=
=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">Tigers@embarqmail.com</=
a></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 10:52=E2=80=AFPM GARY WINBL=
AD &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net";>garywinblad@comcast.net</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I =
have it on good authority(Paul Reisentz) that Tigers never came with the re=
turn spring.<br>
<br>
When I bought B94790622 in 1971 it already had one.<br>
<br>
If you don&#39;t have a return spring, you have a self-adjusting clutch whi=
ch IIRC the shop manual says<br>
it is..?<br>
Mine has a hole punched in the frame rail for the spring, no tab, rivets or=
 anything.=C2=A0 My spring is<br>
much lighter than the ones Paul used to install but has always worked fine =
for me.<br>
Gary<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On 10/21/2023 12:16 PM PDT H B Elam via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
igers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; On both B382002021 &amp; B382000471 there was 1) a hole on the clutch =
actuating arm and 2) a tab pop riveted to the driver side frame rail with a=
 suitable sized hole. The two allowed an external spring to be connected be=
tween them to assist in fully returning the piston to the fully returned po=
sition against the piston dome.<br>
&gt; B382002027 came with the spring and was never any problem.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; B382000471 did not have the spring and had a screaming throw out beari=
ng when the clutch was engaged on the entire trip in 1983 from Arizona to V=
irginia. Without determining the cause, I replaced the throw out bearing wh=
ile doing other engine work. Years later in 1991 on a vacation trip the bea=
ring began screaming again. This time I remembered the spring and found a s=
uitable replacement. To date there has never been another problem in anothe=
r 20K miles driving.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I have official parts listing books for all Tigers. I am also TAC insp=
ector #37. Never have I found a part list that included the spring and only=
 rarely have I found a spring or pop riveted tab installed during a TAC.<br=
>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Harry Elam<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
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