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Re: Vintage racing..

To: Gary Speckman <speckman@coredcs.com>, Thickos <team-thicko@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Vintage racing..
From: Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:31:22 -0700 (PDT)
Expletive-deleted beautiful, Gary.

--- Gary Speckman <speckman@coredcs.com> wrote:
> Lee,
> 
> I appreciate your words but honestly believe you
> have grossly
> mis-characterized
> the past few days bantering and especially the Team
> Thicko philosophy.
> 
> I would invite you, or anyone else, to join the Team
> Thicko mailing
> list.
> You'll get the whole story and feel of what we are
> all about there.  I'd
> be happy
> to forward sign-up instructions to anyone
> interested.  But be warned,
> bring a
> sense of humor or you won't last long.
> 
> We may make fun of ourselves, and our cars, but one
> thing is certain,
> the
> cars ARE properly maintained.  Had there been any
> indication that WST's
> suspension bolt was "going", you can bet he would
> have been advised of
> it and there
> would have been 10 hands there, helping him fix it.
> Camaraderie is a big
> part of vintage racing and that is on the top of
> Team Thickos list.  As
> WST mentioned in one of his notes.... he hears the
> feet
> of racers everywhere rushing to check their
> suspensions after this
> incident. That's a good thing. Things like this
> remind us of the fact
> that we are racing 40+ year old automobiles and
> things fail.  Not always
> due to poor or non-existent maintenance.
> 
> You are disturbed that we seem to sit around and
> make laughable jokes
> about very serious situations.  True, sometimes we
> do...we're not the
> type that would sit around and cry in our soup and
> feel sorry for
> ourselves.  If you cant laugh when life hands you
> crap, .........
> However,  we all appreciate and respect the
> seriousness of our sport
> when the green flag drops.
> 
> We generally race with the VSCDA organization.  This
> organization has an
> exemplary safety record and a serious drivers
> committee.  Non "vintage
> spirit" driving is not accepted, but that doesn't
> mean we have to tour
> around the track as if in some exhibition race.  We
> had the "what is
> vintage racing"
> discussion on this list several months ago, I don't
> want to revisit
> that.  There are as many opinions on that subject as
> there are surviving
> Arnolt Bristols.
> 
> I appreciate the rarity and value of your cars and I
> am glad that you
> have found a suitable organization that allows you
> to enjoy our sport in
> a manner that suits your philosophy.
> 
> Regards,
> Gary Speckman
> Plover, WI
> 
> 
> LMR356@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > 07-03-00 POST:
> > From: Wm S. Thompson  "...inspection showed
> failure of 2 bolts that
> hold the spindle to the steering arm."   "The Red
> Rat Bastard's days are
> over...better to end this way rather than rusting
> away in someone's back
> yard.  I'm thankful I had no serious injuries and no
> one else was hurt."
> 
> >
> > 07-04-00 POST: brian@uunet.ca ( Brian Evans)  "Bad
> news all round
> then.
> Sorry about writing off the RRB ( Thompson's car) 
> FWIW, Don Sobering
> lunched a GT-3 Midget there about 10 years ago, and
> Mike Jennings
> punched the wall there in his Bug-Eye.  Mosport is
> not a forgiving
> track...."
> >
> > 07-04-00 POST:
> > From: Billd13@aol.com.   To: wsthompson@thicko.com
>  "If his fingers
> weren't hurt, maybe we should consider an alternate
> nickname for the
> Flounder..."Lucky Fuck II"
> >
> > MY RESPONSE:
> > It's too bad  whenever there is a serious incident
> in
> motorsports...and especially for the future of
> vintage racing.  Luckily,
> Wm Thompson's injury wasn't life threatening.  But
> it sure seems like
> his accident at Mosport might have been caused by
> careless maintenance
> or... just none at all!
> >
> > As to "Mosport is an unforgiving track"  That is
> an easy excuse.  A
> track isn't really "unforgiving"..it's usually the
> driver and his lack
> of understanding of what he's driving that makes it
> appear that way.
> >
> > I am bothered by the last few days'  posts
> ...especially from Team
> Thicko...which  suggests  that there is some kind of
> fraternal dialect
> and dialogue among the Spidget group.....one that
> treats serious shunts
> almost as a laughable joke.
> >
> > We all can talk trash, spit on the ground, drink
> beer, and piss it out
> the same way...but this forum isn't for that
> purpose...at least not from
> my "vintage" perspective.   If you want to continue
> this bs...why not do
> it between yourselves?
> >
> > Someone recently asked me why valuable vintage and
> historic cars don't
> appear on the grid anymore?  Why would I want to put
> my Arnolt-Bristol (
> 142 made....less than 60 have survived) onto the
> same grid as Thompson's
> Sprite...knowing what I know today?   It's a no
> brainer!
> >
> > So...like many other vintage racers, I too support
> the new VDCA's
> philosophy for promoting a more diverse grid of
> preserved race cars
> and...while recreating the vintage spirit of a
> bygone era....one which
> welcomes and appreciates the original Arnolt-Bs and
> A-H Sprites as well.
> 
> >
> > Vintage racing is and has to remain distinctive. 
> It's too fragile to
> treat casually like the above referenced posts.  
> Vintage racing is a
> matter of ....style.   Don't most of you agree?
> >
> > Lee Raskin
> > Brooklandville, MD
> > Arnolt-B and 356er
> 
> 
> 


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