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Sure did. It=E2=80=99s a hose between two steel tubes on this car. =
I=E2=80=99ve suspected for years that there was a little leak in one of =
the (5? 6?) little hoses in the fuel line, so I once again changed them =
all.
=20
I put a camera into the tank through the filler hole on the top of the =
tank. The inlet tube is part of the fuel sending unit on this car, and =
there=E2=80=99s what looks for all the world like a white nylon mesh =
filter with a plastic cage around the inlet tube, as part of the fuel =
sending unit. Nothing like that in any parts books, not even the BMIHT =
CD parts book.
=20
This is a California-emissions 1978 car. Not the first thing =
that=E2=80=99s different from the parts books, Moss, etc.=20
=20
But it=E2=80=99s all okay and air blew through beautifully after I had =
the tank open to look. And now there=E2=80=99s fuel flow to the pump. =
I don=E2=80=99t know =E2=80=93 I didn=E2=80=99t change anything, just =
looked in there and put the same air hose onto the fuel line as =
I=E2=80=99d done a couple of times before.
=20
FM Principle
=20
Thanks for the info !!!
=20
Karl
=20
=20
From: Rich Hill [mailto:ra_hill@icloud.com]=20
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 4:15 PM
To: Karl Vacek
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 78 Midget fuel system
=20
There=E2=80=99s a section of plastic tubing on the side of the =
transmission. Make sure that=E2=80=99s OK. Although if you=E2=80=99ve =
replaced all the hoses, you=E2=80=99ve probably done that one.=20
=20
Rich
=E2=80=9879 Midget
=E2=80=9858 Sprite
On Jun 22, 2023, at 7:52 PM, Karl Vacek <kvacek@ameritech.net> wrote:
=EF=BB=BF=20
We've had this car since 2006 -almost second owners. About 17,000 =
miles, very original. Jill stopped driving it a couple years ago so I'm =
renewing everything in preparation for selling it.
=20
It's a 1500 (Spitfire) engine and all the emissions stuff. Which is all =
there and everything I've checked is working.
=20
We bought it from a kid who owned it for about as month, just putting in =
the cheapest fuel pump he could find and jamming the wrong size battery =
between the heater and the firewall. It's always seemed to lose fuel =
pump prime and needed lots of cranking for the first start after sitting =
a day or two. I only just now finally replaced each and every hose in =
the system (not the evap circuits, but for now I've unhooked the evap =
tank line.
=20
Running with fuel directly to the carb I only got a little spit from the =
pump, and off the car it seemed dead. Soooo - I bought a good new fuel =
pump, the one with the infinitely clockable top, which also actually has =
a filter unlike the POS the kid put on the car. Pump seems to suck but =
it's still not pulling fuel though the line from the tank even after =
getting some fuel in the lines and running the engine a few minutes on =
direct fuel to the carb.
=20
I want to check the rest of the fuel supply system but I cannot remove =
the feed line from the tank - it's a non-existent size for flare =
wrenches, Kroil hasn't worked it's usual magic, and my Knipex pliers =
wrench can't turn the fitting either. Not to the cave man stage yet - =
this is a very original, rust free car, so I'm not using a pipe wrench =
or etc.=20
=20
I want to directly blow through the fuel line to make sure it's clear - =
blowing from the front with the gas cap off is inconclusive. I'm =
working alone and I'm just not sure it's passing as much air as it =
should.
=20
Aside from cutting the line off (really original car that we want to =
sell as soon as I'm done renewing everything) I'm stuck. I can't really =
drop the tank (to fill it with water and have at the fitting with =
serious heat) without destroying the original fuel line.=20
=20
What is the pickup like in the tank, presumably leading down from the =
bulkhead fitting to the bottom. No in-tank filter that I see in the =
parts books.
=20
My last hope is to remove the huge filler hose in the trunk and put a =
camera in there tomorrow.
=20
Any other suggestions ?=20
=20
Thanks!
Karl
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Sure did.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s a hose between two steel tubes on this =
car.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve suspected for years that there was a little leak =
in one of the (5? 6?) little hoses in the fuel line, so I once again =
changed them all.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I put a camera into the tank through the filler hole on the top of =
the tank.=C2=A0 The inlet tube is part of the fuel sending unit on this =
car, and there=E2=80=99s what looks for all the world like a white nylon =
mesh filter with a plastic cage around the inlet tube, as part of the =
fuel sending unit.=C2=A0 Nothing like that in any parts books, not even =
the BMIHT CD parts book.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>This is a California-emissions 1978 car.=C2=A0 Not the first thing =
that=E2=80=99s different from the parts books, Moss, etc. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>But it=E2=80=99s all okay and air blew through beautifully after I =
had the tank open to look.=C2=A0 And now there=E2=80=99s fuel flow to =
the pump.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know =E2=80=93 I didn=E2=80=99t change =
anything, just looked in there and put the same air hose onto the fuel =
line as I=E2=80=99d done a couple of times =
before.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>FM Principle<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Thanks for the info !!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Karl<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Rich Hill [mailto:ra_hill@icloud.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 23, =
2023 4:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> Karl Vacek<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Spridgets<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spridgets] 78 Midget fuel =
system<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>There=E2=80=99s a section of plastic tubing on the =
side of the transmission. Make sure that=E2=80=99s OK. Although if =
you=E2=80=99ve replaced all the hoses, you=E2=80=99ve probably done that =
one. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rich<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=E2=80=9879 Midget<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=E2=80=9858 Sprite<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jun 22, 2023, at 7:52 PM, Karl Vacek =
<<a href=3D"mailto:kvacek@ameritech.net";>kvacek@ameritech.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>=EF=BB=BF</span> =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>We've had this car since 2006 =
-almost second owners. About 17,000 miles, very original. =
Jill stopped driving it a couple years ago so I'm renewing everything in =
preparation for selling it.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>It's a 1500 (Spitfire) engine and all the emissions =
stuff. Which is all there and everything I've checked is =
working.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We bought it from a kid who owned it for about as =
month, just putting in the cheapest fuel pump he could find and jamming =
the wrong size battery between the heater and the firewall. It's =
always seemed to lose fuel pump prime and needed lots of cranking for =
the first start after sitting a day or two. I only just now =
finally replaced each and every hose in the system (not the evap =
circuits, but for now I've unhooked the evap tank =
line.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Running with fuel directly to the carb I only got a =
little spit from the pump, and off the car it seemed dead. Soooo - =
I bought a good new fuel pump, the one with the infinitely clockable =
top, which also actually has a filter unlike the POS the kid put on the =
car. Pump seems to suck but it's still not pulling fuel though the =
line from the tank even after getting some fuel in the lines and running =
the engine a few minutes on direct fuel to the =
carb.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
want to check the rest of the fuel supply system but I cannot remove the =
feed line from the tank - it's a non-existent size for flare wrenches, =
Kroil hasn't worked it's usual magic, and my Knipex pliers wrench can't =
turn the fitting either. Not to the cave man stage yet - this is a =
very original, rust free car, so I'm not using a pipe wrench or =
etc. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
want to directly blow through the fuel line to make sure it's clear - =
blowing from the front with the gas cap off is inconclusive. I'm =
working alone and I'm just not sure it's passing as much air as it =
should.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Aside from cutting the line off (really original car =
that we want to sell as soon as I'm done renewing everything) I'm =
stuck. I can't really drop the tank (to fill it with water and =
have at the fitting with serious heat) without destroying the original =
fuel line. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>What is the pickup like in the tank, presumably =
leading down from the bulkhead fitting to the bottom. No in-tank =
filter that I see in the parts books.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My last hope is to remove the huge filler hose in the =
trunk and put a camera in there tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Any other suggestions =
? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Karl<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div=
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