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That sounds like an idea!
On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 10:11, GUY DAY via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> One of my early car 'tutors' worked at Rolls Royce as an apprentice and
> had a flat mate who died following an explosion whilst repair welding a
> fuel tank that was brim filled with water. Not a course of action he or I
> chose to follow.
>
>
> A course I went on run by what was ICI (now AstraZeneca) had a metal model
> petrol tanker with a hole around 1inch square cut out of the side. It had a
> splash of petrol poured in, swirled round and then drained out. A lit taper
> was placed in the hole, the toy blew off the table onto the floor. This was
> repeated around five times with sufficient explosive force to blow the
> tanker onto the floor (without a fuel refil!). It 'popped' a further twice.
> Never ignore the ability of petrol fumes to seep into old metal and blow.
>
>
> I have also heard of using gravel or small nuts & bolts swirled round in a
> tank part filled with water but that means getting the old tank out of the
> car and hiring a gorilla to do the swirling. Whilst out, you clean it up,
> (the tank, not the gorilla) realize the the bottom is paper thin so you
> coat it with fibre glass resin and make an awful mess. The reality is that
> it is the top of the tank that rusts through because of internal
> condensation over the years. But you now have doubts firmly implanted in
> your mind that the tank will fail at any time in the near future and ensure
> you look under the back of the car every time you go near and find the
> spots of oil from the pumpkin and then those from the rear of the gearbox.
> For those reasons above this wasn't mentioned in my first post but you
> thought it was just a hiccup in the fuel tank..
>
>
> If you are going to get a NEW tank with no drain hole why not take it to
> your local machine shop and have a large brass nut and bolt braised in at
> the low point. Don't forget it needs doing before use! If you are cutting a
> drainer from your old tank just remember the toy tanker and that your
> grinder produces an awful lot of sparks....
>
>
> Stay well
>
>
> Guy R Day
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Bruce Hamper" <brucehamper@gmail.com>
> To: "David Lieb" <72spridget@gmail.com>
> Cc: "GUY DAY" <grday@btinternet.com>; "Spridget list" <
> spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, 6 Jun, 21 At 23:40
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Repairing old fuel tank
>
> Thanks! I'll keep you posted on progress. I'm tempted to try heating the
> tank in the BBQ. If I remember correctly, that is what Frank C. would do.
> Bruce
>
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:48 AM David Lieb <72spridget@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would add that you want that filter to be before the fuel pump.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021, 02:50 GUY DAY via Spridgets <
>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce,
>>>
>>> The only way I have heard of is to pull the filter off by whatever means
>>> possible and then use an in-line filter in the engine bay where it is
>>> easier to reach.
>>>
>>> I have also thought that a good reversed flow of kerosene or a fairly
>>> high pressure air line may do the trick but I've never tried that.
>>>
>>> Best of luck,
>>>
>>>
>>> Guy R Day
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Bruce Hamper via Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>>> To: "Spridget list" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, 6 Jun, 21 At 00:36
>>> Subject: [Spridgets] Repairing old fuel tank
>>>
>>> Has anyone had success cleaning the take-up tube on original Bugeye fuel
>>> tanks? Mine is completely plugged. I've looked at the 'sock' covering the
>>> pickup tube, visible through the sender unit hole. It appears to have a
>>> latex coating on it. Needless to say, the pump cannot draw gas up through
>>> the tube. Any hope of repairing it? I can't figure out how to reach the
>>> filter.
>>> Bugeye in St. Louis
>>> Bruce
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<div dir=3D"ltr">That sounds like an idea!</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 10:11, GUY =
DAY via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets=
@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex"><u></u> <div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"unicode-bidi:emb=
ed"><p>One of my early car 'tutors' worked at Rolls Royce as an app=
rentice and had a flat mate who died following an explosion whilst repair w=
elding a fuel tank that was brim filled with water. Not a course of action=
he or I chose to follow.</p><p><br></p><p>A course I went on run by what w=
as ICI (now AstraZeneca) had a metal model petrol tanker with a hole around=
1inch square cut out of the side. It had a splash of petrol poured in, sw=
irled round and then drained out. A lit taper was placed in the hole, the =
toy blew off the table onto the floor. This was repeated around five times=
with sufficient explosive force to blow the tanker onto the floor (without=
a fuel refil!). It 'popped' a further twice. Never ignore the ab=
ility of petrol fumes to seep into old metal and blow.</p><p><br></p><p>I h=
ave also heard of using gravel or small nuts & bolts swirled round in a=
tank part filled with water but that means getting the old tank out of the=
car and hiring a gorilla to do the swirling. Whilst out, you clean it up,=
(the tank, not the gorilla) realize the the bottom is paper thin so you co=
at it with fibre glass resin and make an awful mess. The reality is that i=
t is the top of the tank that rusts through because of internal condensatio=
n over the years. But you now have doubts firmly implanted in your mind th=
at the tank will fail at any time in the near future and ensure you look un=
der the back of the car every time you go near and find the spots of oil fr=
om the pumpkin and then those from the rear of the gearbox. For those reas=
ons above this wasn't mentioned in my first post but you thought it was=
just a hiccup in the fuel tank.. </p><p><br></p><p>If you are going to get=
a NEW tank with no drain hole why not take it to your local machine shop a=
nd have a large brass nut and bolt braised in at the low point. Don't=
forget it needs doing before use! If you are cutting a drainer from your=
old tank just remember the toy tanker and that your grinder produces an aw=
ful lot of sparks.... </p><p><br></p><p>Stay well</p><p><br></p><p>Guy R Da=
y</p><br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px auto;padding:0px 2em;border-left:2=
px solid rgb(0,173,229);white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br>------ Original Messa=
ge ------<br>From: "Bruce Hamper" <<a href=3D"mailto:brucehamp=
er@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">brucehamper@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "=
David Lieb" <<a href=3D"mailto:72spridget@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">72spridget@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: "GUY DAY" <<a href=3D"=
mailto:grday@btinternet.com"; target=3D"_blank">grday@btinternet.com</a>>=
; "Spridget list" <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"=
target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>><br>Sent: Sunday, 6 Jun,=
21 At 23:40<br>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Repairing old fuel tank<br><br><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Thanks! I'll keep you posted on progress. I'm tempt=
ed to try heating the tank in the BBQ. If I remember correctly, that is wh=
at Frank C. would do.<div>Bruce</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:48 AM David L=
ieb <<a href=3D"mailto:72spridget@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank"><span>72s=
pridget@gmail.com</span><span></span></a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I would add that you=
want that filter to be before the fuel pump.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 6, 2021, 02:50 GUY=
DAY via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank"><span>spridgets@autox.team.net</span><span></span></a>> wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u> <=
div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"unicode-bidi:embed">Bruce,<div><p>The only w=
ay I have heard of is to pull the filter off by whatever means possible and=
then use an in-line filter in the engine bay where it is easier to reach. =
</p><p> I have also thought that a good reversed flow of kerosene or a fair=
ly high pressure air line may do the trick but I've never tried that.</=
p><div><p>Best of luck,</p><p><br></p><p>Guy R Day</p><p><br></p><br><block=
quote style=3D"margin:0px auto;padding:0px 2em;border-left:2px solid rgb(0,=
173,229)"><br><br>------ Original Message ------<br>From: "Bruce Hampe=
r via Spridgets" <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank"><span>spridgets@autox.team.net</span><span></span></a>><br>=
To: "Spridget list" <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank"><span>spridgets@autox.team.net</span><span></span></a>=
><br>Sent: Sunday, 6 Jun, 21 At 00:36<br>Subject: [Spridgets] Repairing =
old fuel tank<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Has anyone had success cleaning the t=
ake-up tube on original Bugeye fuel tanks? Mine is completely plugged. I&=
#39;ve looked at the 'sock' covering the pickup tube, visible throu=
gh the sender unit hole. It appears to have a latex coating on it. Needle=
ss to say, the pump cannot draw gas up through the tube. Any hope of repai=
ring it? I can't figure out how to reach the filter.<div>Bugeye in St.=
Louis</div><div>Bruce</div></div> <hr>------------------------<br> <br> <s=
pan><a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"><span>spr=
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