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One of my early car 'tutors' worked at Rolls Royce as an apprentice and
had a flat mate who died following an explosion whilst repair welding a
fuel tank that was brim filled with water. Not a course of action he or
I chose to follow.
A course I went on run by what was ICI (now AstraZeneca) had a metal
model petrol tanker with a hole around 1inch square cut out of the side.
It had a splash of petrol poured in, swirled round and then drained out.
A lit taper was placed in the hole, the toy blew off the table onto the
floor. This was repeated around five times with sufficient explosive
force to blow the tanker onto the floor (without a fuel refil!). It
'popped' a further twice. Never ignore the ability of petrol fumes to
seep into old metal and blow.
I have also heard of using gravel or small nuts & bolts swirled round in
a tank part filled with water but that means getting the old tank out of
the car and hiring a gorilla to do the swirling. Whilst out, you clean
it up, (the tank, not the gorilla) realize the the bottom is paper thin
so you coat it with fibre glass resin and make an awful mess. The
reality is that it is the top of the tank that rusts through because of
internal condensation over the years. But you now have doubts firmly
implanted in your mind that the tank will fail at any time in the near
future and ensure you look under the back of the car every time you go
near and find the spots of oil from the pumpkin and then those from the
rear of the gearbox. For those reasons above this wasn't mentioned in
my first post but you thought it was just a hiccup in the fuel tank..
If you are going to get a NEW tank with no drain hole why not take it to
your local machine shop and have a large brass nut and bolt braised in
at the low point. Don't forget it needs doing before use! If you are
cutting a drainer from your old tank just remember the toy tanker and
that your grinder produces an awful lot of sparks....
Stay well
Guy R Day
------ Original Message ------
From: "Bruce Hamper" <brucehamper@gmail.com>
To: "David Lieb" <72spridget@gmail.com>
Cc: "GUY DAY" <grday@btinternet.com>; "Spridget list"
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, 6 Jun, 21 At 23:40
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Repairing old fuel tank
Thanks! I'll keep you posted on progress. I'm tempted to try heating
the tank in the BBQ. If I remember correctly, that is what Frank C.
would do.
Bruce
On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:48 AM David Lieb <72spridget@gmail.com
I would add that you want that filter to be before the fuel pump.
On Sun, Jun 6, 2021, 02:50 GUY DAY via Spridgets
Bruce,
The only way I have heard of is to pull the filter off by whatever means
possible and then use an in-line filter in the engine bay where it is
easier to reach.
I have also thought that a good reversed flow of kerosene or a fairly
high pressure air line may do the trick but I've never tried that.
Best of luck,
Guy R Day
------ Original Message ------
From: "Bruce Hamper via Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets@autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, 6 Jun, 21 At 00:36
Subject: [Spridgets] Repairing old fuel tank
Has anyone had success cleaning the take-up tube on original Bugeye fuel
tanks? Mine is completely plugged. I've looked at the 'sock' covering
the pickup tube, visible through the sender unit hole. It appears to
have a latex coating on it. Needless to say, the pump cannot draw gas
up through the tube. Any hope of repairing it? I can't figure out how
to reach the filter.
Bugeye in St. Louis
Bruce
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t=3DUTF-8" /> </head> <body><div class=3D"auto-created-dir-div" dir=3D"auto=
" style=3D"unicode-bidi: embed;"><style>p{margin:0}</style><p>One of my ear=
ly car 'tutors' worked at Rolls Royce as an apprentice and had a fl=
at mate who died following an explosion whilst repair welding a fuel tank t=
hat was brim filled with water. Not a course of action he or I chose to fo=
llow.</p><p><br></p><p>A course I went on run by what was ICI (now AstraZen=
eca) had a metal model petrol tanker with a hole around 1inch square cut ou=
t of the side. It had a splash of petrol poured in, swirled round and then=
drained out. A lit taper was placed in the hole, the toy blew off the tab=
le onto the floor. This was repeated around five times with sufficient exp=
losive force to blow the tanker onto the floor (without a fuel refil!). It=
'popped' a further twice. Never ignore the ability of petrol fume=
s to seep into old metal and blow.</p><p><br></p><p>I have also heard of us=
ing gravel or small nuts & bolts swirled round in a tank part filled wi=
th water but that means getting the old tank out of the car and hiring a go=
rilla to do the swirling. Whilst out, you clean it up, (the tank, not the =
gorilla) realize the the bottom is paper thin so you coat it with fibre gla=
ss resin and make an awful mess. The reality is that it is the top of the =
tank that rusts through because of internal condensation over the years. B=
ut you now have doubts firmly implanted in your mind that the tank will fai=
l at any time in the near future and ensure you look under the back of the =
car every time you go near and find the spots of oil from the pumpkin and t=
hen those from the rear of the gearbox. For those reasons above this wasn&=
#39;t mentioned in my first post but you thought it was just a hiccup in th=
e fuel tank.. </p><p><br></p><p>If you are going to get a NEW tank with no =
drain hole why not take it to your local machine shop and have a large bras=
s nut and bolt braised in at the low point. Don't forget it needs doi=
ng before use! If you are cutting a drainer from your old tank just remem=
ber the toy tanker and that your grinder produces an awful lot of sparks...=
. </p><p><br></p><p>Stay well</p><p><br></p><p>Guy R Day</p><br><blockquote=
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ite-space: pre-wrap "><br><br>------ Original Message ------<br>From: "=
;Bruce Hamper" <brucehamper@gmail.com><br>To: "David Lieb&q=
uot; <72spridget@gmail.com><br>Cc: "GUY DAY" <grday@btin=
ternet.com>; "Spridget list" <spridgets@autox.team.net><=
br>Sent: Sunday, 6 Jun, 21 At 23:40<br>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Repairing o=
ld fuel tank<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks! I'll keep you posted on p=
rogress. I'm tempted to try heating the tank in the BBQ. If I remembe=
r correctly, that is what Frank C. would do.<div>Bruce</div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 6, =
2021 at 5:48 AM David Lieb <<a href=3D"mailto:72spridget@gmail.com";><spa=
n class=3D"wt_Email">72spridget@gmail.com</span><span></span></a>> wrote=
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<div dir=3D"auto">I would add that you want that filter to be before the fu=
el pump.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l_attr">On Sun, Jun 6, 2021, 02:50 GUY DAY via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:spridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank"><span class=3D"wt_Email">sp=
ridgets@autox.team.net</span><span></span></a>> wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft: 1.0px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left: 1.0ex;"><u></u> <div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto" style=3D"unicode-bidi: embed;">Bruce,<div><p>The only way I=
have heard of is to pull the filter off by whatever means possible and the=
n use an in-line filter in the engine bay where it is easier to reach. </p>=
<p> I have also thought that a good reversed flow of kerosene or a fairly h=
igh pressure air line may do the trick but I've never tried that.</p><d=
iv><p>Best of luck,</p><p><br></p><p>Guy R Day</p><p><br></p><br><blockquot=
e style=3D"margin: 0.0px auto;padding: 0.0px 2.0em;border-left: 2.0px solid=
rgb(0,173,229);"><br><br>------ Original Message ------<br>From: "Bru=
ce Hamper via Spridgets" <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank"><span class=3D"wt_Email">spridgets@autox.team.net</spa=
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=3D"ltr">Has anyone had success cleaning the take-up tube on original Bugey=
e fuel tanks? Mine is completely plugged. I've looked at the 'soc=
k' covering the pickup tube, visible through the sender unit hole. It =
appears to have a latex coating on it. Needless to say, the pump cannot dr=
aw gas up through the tube. Any hope of repairing it? I can't figure =
out how to reach the filter.<div>Bugeye in St. Louis</div><div>Bruce</div><=
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