Sure you are not a lawyer, sounds just like what a lawyer might say ;-)
And no I do not want to go there, just something I wondered about in this
new media world we live in.
As a matter of fact most of my words wouldn't be publishable - even in a
book of bad jokes LMAO
Larry
Who does hold a copyright on his dissertation
PS to the best of my knowledge there was not an archive when I joined,
but since my earliest posts are ther then there must have been one.
>>>>On 2/8/00 6:55 PM so and so (Christopher Kotting) said. (And I quote:)
>Larry -
>
>If you want to go there (I'm not a lawyer, but I've worked with them every
>day for the past 17 years):
>
>It could be argued that if the archive existed when you subscribed (or
>first posted) to the list, and you knew about it, you gave tacit approval
>to the archiving by posting.
>
>It could even be argued that you gave tacit approval, whether or not you
>knew about the archive initially, by posting AFTER you knew about the
>archive's existance, and that approval could be assumed to be retroactive
>to day 1, if you didn't explicitly protest.
>
>On the other hand, anyone who plans on making a profit from your words, who
>actually counted on an argument like that to protect them from legal
>action, well...
>
>Now, back to your regularly scheduled reality.
>
>At 06:06 PM 2/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>This brings up an interesting question concerning the archive. I do not
>>remeber stating that my words could be reproduced there, unless it was in
>>the signup info and I do not recall seeing it there. I know that my words
>>are reproduced on every list members computer but I gave implicit
>>permission for that by submitting a post to the list, or contributing to
>>a thread (hey if he's gonna use my name I'm gonna use that term). Not
>>that I have any personal objection to the archive its just that I gave no
>>permission for it to include my postings. I don't care, but somebody that
>>writes a lengthy treatise on, say replacing the kingpins on a 60 Sprite
>>and how that differs from a 78 Midget might someday want to publish info
>>that and I can get it for free from the archive. So if we are gonna pound
>>this nail - let's pound it.
>>
>>Is my posting to the list a free representation for anyone to reuse the
>>words with out permission??
>>
>>Don't care - just wondered.
>>
>>Larry
>>Not a copyright lawyer and don't want to be one either.
>>
>>>>>On 2/8/00 4:59 PM so and so (Daniel1312@aol.com) said. (And I quote:)
>>
>>>List,
>>>
>>>My understanding of copyright is that the author holds copyright first and
>>>anyone else including the BBS, this list or whatever holds copyright
>>>second.
>>>If someone has written something which appears on the BBS, this list or
>>>wherever it cannot be reproduced somewhere else without the permission of
>>>the
>>>the writer and the first publisher.
>>>
>>>The difficult part is proving that you originated the words in the first
>>>place and even in UK magazines there are some writers that simply cut and
>>>paste from technical books to produce what amounts to technical worded crap.
>>>
>>>The other difficult part is the area of law that allows samples and quotes
>>>and I think that the users of the list have often quoted from David
>Vizard's
>>>book and this is acceptable as long as whole pages, even chapters aren't
>>>reproduced AND credit is given to the author.
>>>
>>>What needs to happen is for a polite question to be posed to whoever used
>>>Frank's stuff to see if they were ignorant of copyright law or whatever -
>>>IMHO.
>>>
>>>NOT LEAST - I keep telling Frank he ought to do some writing and get paid
>>>for
>>>it so if nothing else this wild and angry thread might produce some
>>>encouragement in the right direction.
>>>
>>>
>>>Daniel1312
>>
>>
>>Larry Macy
>>78 Midget
>>
>>Keep your top down and your chin up.
>>
>>Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>>macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu
>>System Manager/Administrator
>>Neuropsychiatry Section
>>Department of Psychiatry
>>University of Pennsylvania
>>3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates
>>Philadelphia, PA 19104
>>
>> Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a
>>question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.
>>
>>
Larry Macy
78 Midget
Keep your top down and your chin up.
Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu
System Manager/Administrator
Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104
Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a
question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.
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