Mike,
There's no need for you to apologize for not registering for this event. If
it were required to pay an admission charge for looking at the cars, there
would have been someone standing at the entrance selling tickets who would
not have let you in without paying, like at most of the car shows I've been
to. The fact that there was not implies to me that everyone is invited to
come on in and look around for free. I would not have paid $95 to look
around at the cars either. A $2 or $3 admission charge would have been
appropriate, but was apparently not required. It doesn't matter whether you
were there for 2 hours or 2 days; it is still presumptuous of anyone to
expect you to pay $95 just to look at a bunch of cars, no matter how nicely
restored they are. I know that if I were showing a car, I would much rather
have thousands of people come to look at it for free than to have no one
look at it because they did not want to pay $95 to get in!
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Maclean <macleans@earthlink.net>
To: Bob Brown <rcbrown@lucent.com>
Cc: JustBrits@aol.com <JustBrits@aol.com>; spridgets@autox.team.net
<spridgets@autox.team.net>; healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, August 15, 1999 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: Event participation??
>I guess I should have made it crystal clear of my exact arrival and
departure times.
>Just being present for only the "Popular Choice" judging on Tuesday should
have been an
>indication of something more than a weekend meet. I've only "stopped by"
one other
>event (which happened to be a week long) back in 1994. I've never been to
any other
>Healey meets of any kind. Both times I was invited by one of the
participants. Both
>times I only stayed a couple of hours. In 1994 I spent $60 dollars in the
regailia
>room on books and t-shirts. Not seeing any vendors at the San Diego event,
I was
>denied contributing some of my cash to help offset my "limited
participation". I
>surely would have bought at least a t-shirt to remember a beautiful day and
some of the
>more friendly people on this list. If any are available I still might.
Bob?
>Mike"still a deadbeat by omission" MacLean
>
>Bob Brown wrote:
>
>> Ed,
>> I have to stick up for your position!!
>>
>> >From Mike's original message there was NO indication that he had stopped
by the
>> event for a few hours. I like you assumed that he had been there
>> for most if not all of the event. No one suggests that anyone pay the
>> registration fee just to attend a popularity event. But when people
>> spend days at an event without registering then they are cheating and
>> should be be stopped.
>> Mike having spend only a few hours, just like any other person just
>> stopping by was not one of the cheats, but that was not the impression
>> he left us with.
>> At most events people attend without Healeys, pay the registration and
>> participate as much as possible. Mike, you are welcome at any Midewst
>> Region event and I'm sure someone, if not me will let you use one
>> of our cars whenever possible.
>> Bob Brown
>>
>> Mike Maclean wrote:
>> >
>> > Ed,
>> > Just what is your problem? Are you saying everyone with an
unfinished
>> > restoration should stay away from an event that is held open to the
public at
>> > large? It's very admirable that you "donate" to these events when you
have no
>> > car to show. What category should I have registered under? Half
finished
>> > restoration? Do they come to my house to judge the tub?
>> > This was a 5 day meet. I told the Kitterer's that my car was not
completed
>> > and so would not register for the meet. Bob suggested I show up on
Tuesday for
>> > the popular judging event as all the cars would be in one place. I
stayed about
>> > two hours and took pictures along with many other non-participants from
the
>> > general public who had the same opportunity as I did to talk to anyone
at the
>> > meet. I would not have shown up if I thought I was not welcome under
the
>> > circumstances.
>> > There were also several big Healeys in the parking lot from local
owners who
>> > showed up for this one event, but did not register. I guess we should
get their
>> > names and send those other deadbeats a bill also for the privilege of
attending a
>> > public event. Or maybe everyone with a membership in a club that is
hosting one
>> > of these meets should be forced to pay for registration, even if they
will not be
>> > attending.
>> > By the way Ed, I "saved" $95, not $75.
>> > Mike "Deadbeat" MacLean
>> >
>> > JustBrits@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > In a message dated 08/14/1999 1:47:53 AM Central Daylight Time,
>> > > macleans@earthlink.net (from the spridgets list) writes:
>> > >
>> > > Now what we have here is a full blown "CHEAT" !! I am coping to the
healeys
>> > > list because there are National Officers of both Clubs plus many
Local
>> > > Officers.
>> > >
>> > > << Because my Bugeye is not finished, >>
>> > >
>> > > So what?? I've been to events in my Healey, wife's Honda, wife's
Cavalier,
>> > > and my
>> > > '70 El Camino. NEVER been "unregistered".
>> > >
>> > > <>
>> > >
>> > > and the reason was ??????????????
>> > >
>> > > <<and participation was very limited. >>
>> > >
>> > > Sure doesn't sound like it. In fact, sounds the other way around.
>> > >
>> > > << In fact, I was only a spectator on popular judging day last
Tuesday. >>
>> > >
>> > > So? Lots of cars and a boat to look at and learn about, huh??
>> > >
>> > > << I was warmly greeted by Bob and Annice Kitterer, who along with
their Mark
>> > > IV in disguise Bugeye, had many great looking Healeys on display by
their
>> > > fellow club members. The Spridget connection was represented by two
square
>> > > bodies and four Bugeyes. The majority were of the larger Healeys.
Bob took
>> > > me around and introduced me to some very nice folks in the San Diego
club,
>> > > some people from out of state and even someone with the last name
Healey! >>
>> > >
>> > > And for that privilege, you're not willing to pay??? Who do you
think paid
>> > > for them to 'cross the pond' ?
>> > >
>> > > << I had a nice conversation with Norman Nock about big Healeys. >>
>> > >
>> > > Shoulda gone to his shop instead of "...not participating..."
>> > >
>> > > << They even had a Healey speed boat on display. >>
>> > >
>> > > And how many events canb you go to and see one of them (for
"free")???
>> > >
>> > > << I took many pictures >>
>> > >
>> > > But still didn't "participate", huh?
>> > >
>> > > Sounds to me like you got a He*l of a lot for "not participating" and
saving
>> > > the lousy $75 registration. Mike!!!
>> > >
>> > > Folks do not attempt to put on these types of events to make a
fortune for
>> > > their Club/Chapter but nor do they do the work to lose money.
>> > >
>> > > Send them the money!!
>> > >
>> > > Regards..........
>> > >
>> > > Ed
>> > > '63 BJ-7 (Hortense THE Healey)
>> > > Founding Member & Delegate, ILLINI Chapter - AHCA (20 year
Member)
>> > > Member, AHCUSA
>> > >
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