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Re: [Shotimes] Thoughts on Kumho Ecsta 711s

To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Thoughts on Kumho Ecsta 711s
From: FlamingTaco <flamingtaco@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 02:28:57 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
225's are definately too wide as the carcass distorts too much. Not only will 
cornering suffer, but the tires will run hot as well. A 6" rim is going to put 
the beads about 1/4" beyond their nominal inner range. 50 series tires with a 
section width over 8.5" should be on a 6.5" rim minimum.

As for turn-in, you've got a two-fold problem of the carcass distortion 
removing pressure from the edges of the tires, and the really small shoulder 
block on the tires. 

The continuous center block will help straight line traction, but does nearly 
nothing for cornering, and takes away room needed for wider blocks. Looks like 
a good tire for highway use, should be fairly quiet. Price will keep the wallet 
happy.

David


-----Original Message-----
>From: "Hartberger, Jason M.  AT2 (AW)" <hartbejm@cvn71.navy.mil>
>Sent: Jul 24, 2006 2:47 PM
>To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: [Shotimes] Thoughts on Kumho Ecsta 711s
>
>Got 4 Kumho Ecsta 711s put on the stock slicers the other day, I got
>225/50/16s. Most people will go "that's too wide!" and in retrospect,
>they're right. Steering turn-in has gone to crap. I used to have
>225/55/16 Yoko AVS dB2s on, and steering response was much better. Is it
>because the sidewall is shorter in the new tires? Is it because the
>sidewall of the new tires is just that much less stiff? I don't know.
>Traction is much better in the dry. I just installed bias plugs and did
>a full flush of the brakes and stopping is now even more ridiculously
>short than it was before, and it's now really hard to break traction on
>them, and I have a pretty good tip-in response.
>
>So, I guess to sum it up, traction is better, but turning is mushier,
>than nearly bald yoko AVS dB2s. It's mushier than the old tires when
>they were new too, though. At least riding over bumps isn't as painful
>now...
>
>At least they're cheap! $78 per. :)
>
>V/R
>AT2(AW) Hartberger, Jason M.
>USS Double Secret Probation CVN-71
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