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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I had the sensors die on my 17 Camry & s=
hopped around & was really surprised by the cost spread between shops. T=
he cheapest place I found to install them was Discount Tire, about $40 each.=
Firestone wanted $160 each! I=E2=80=99m getting old enough to not do some r=
epairs myself & I don=E2=80=99t have the equipment. <div><br id=3D"=
lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne <div>We sup=
port Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On J=
an 30, 2026, at 10:40=E2=80=AFAM, eric@megageek.com wrote:<br><br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"=
>Most of the time,
I'm doing it for a friend. Since I have the tire mount and balancer,
it's just the cost of the TPS (about $50 or less.)</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I just want to
be able to finish the job however. 8>0</span>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:=
</span><span style=3D" font-size:9pt;font-family:=
sans-serif">Ronnie
Day <ronnie.day@gmail.com></span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
</span><span style=3D" font-size:9pt;font-family:=
sans-serif">Old
Dirtbeard <dirtbeard@live.com></span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Cc:
</span><span style=3D" font-size:9pt;font-family:=
sans-serif">"eric@megageek.com"
<eric@megageek.com>, "Shop-talk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.te=
am.net></span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date=
:
</span><span style=3D" font-size:9pt;font-family:=
sans-serif">01/30/2026
10:53</span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subj=
ect:
</span><span style=3D" font-size:9pt;font-family:=
sans-serif">Re:
[Shop-talk] TSP Sensors</span>
<br>
<hr noshade=3D"">
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">IMO, I ignore the damned things, at leas=
t
as far as replacing them, unless one is leaking. I've been quoted
around $120/each to replace them. That said, I'll offer good odds that
pretty much everybody in this group keeps an eye on tire pressure. As a
rule of thumb tire pressure varies around 2 PSI with a 10 degree change=
in ambient temperature.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">I have my tires balanced and rotated
every 5K and that's worked out well. Getting ready to replace the tires
on our 2015 Odyssey, which seems like it eats tires. Can't remember what
I paid for the last set (Yokohama YK-CTX) at that time, nor do I remember
the mileage on the van when I bought them, but I can find out. Discount=
has them for $202, plus the usual add-ons. Discount also has the Michelin
Defender 2 with a considerably longer service life, for $211 through
February, so I plan to buy those this time around.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 8:36=E2=80=AFAM O=
ld
Dirtbeard <</span><a href=3D"mailto:dirtbeard@live.com";><span style=3D" f=
ont-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>dirtbeard@live.com</u></span></a><span style=3D=
" font-size:12pt">>
wrote:</span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">Same problems here,
Moose. I have reduced/stopped tire rotations as a result. Not a good respons=
e,
I know...</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">best,</span>
<p style=3D"margin-top:10px;margin-Bottom:10px"><span style=3D" font-size:12=
pt;font-family:Calibri">doug</span></p>
<br>
<hr>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b> Shop-ta=
lk
<</span><a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank"><span style=3D" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>shop-=
talk-bounces@autox.team.net</u></span></a><span style=3D" font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri">>
on behalf of </span><a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com"; target=3D"_blank"><=
span style=3D" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>eric@megage=
ek.com</u></span></a><span style=3D" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<</span><a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com"; target=3D"_blank"><span styl=
e=3D" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>eric@megageek.com</u=
></span></a><span style=3D" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">><b><br>
Sent:</b> Friday, January 30, 2026 5:51 AM<b><br>
To:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
><span style=3D" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Shop-talk=
@autox.team.net</u></span></a><span style=3D" font-size:11pt;font-family:Cal=
ibri">
<</span><a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"><sp=
an style=3D" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u>Shop-talk@aut=
ox.team.net</u></span></a><span style=3D" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri=
">><b><br>
Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] TSP Sensors</span><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">
</span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">OK, it seems to
be happening more and more these days. I replace a tire pressure
sensor (TPS) with a compatible one for the car. However, my TPS programmers
don't seem to work on these after market sensors (they still can program
all the OEM sensors.)</span><span style=3D" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
I spent a bunch of time on support lines with the Schader sensors and they
say that use an open standard, but every TPS programmer I asked them about
'isn't supported." (Note, I have 3 different ones.) To
make it worse, they can't tell me which ones WILL work, I just have to
ask them and they can answer yes or no.</span><span style=3D" font-size:12pt=
">
<br>
</span><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Now, the programmers I have are cheap amazon ones, so it could be they
aren't up to date.</span><span style=3D" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
So, what is a GOOD comprehensive TPS programmer I can buy that should do
most sensors?</span><span style=3D" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Thanks in advance.</span><span style=3D" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Moose</span><span style=3D" font-size:12pt"> </span>
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