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IMO, I ignore the damned things, at least as far as replacing them, unless
one is leaking. I've been quoted around $120/each to replace them. That
said, I'll offer good odds that pretty much everybody in this group keeps
an eye on tire pressure. As a rule of thumb tire pressure varies around 2
PSI with a 10 degree change in ambient temperature.
I have my tires balanced and rotated every 5K and that's worked out well.
Getting ready to replace the tires on our 2015 Odyssey, which seems like it
eats tires. Can't remember what I paid for the last set (Yokohama YK-CTX)
at that time, nor do I remember the mileage on the van when I bought them,
but I can find out. Discount has them for $202, plus the usual add-ons.
Discount also has the Michelin Defender 2 with a considerably longer
service life, for $211 through February, so I plan to buy those this time
around.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 8:36=E2=80=AFAM Old Dirtbeard <dirtbeard@live.com> =
wrote:
> Same problems here, Moose. I have reduced/stopped tire rotations as a
> result. Not a good response, I know...
>
> best,
>
> doug
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of
> eric@megageek.com <eric@megageek.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2026 5:51 AM
> *To:* Shop-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Shop-talk] TSP Sensors
>
> OK, it seems to be happening more and more these days. I replace a tire
> pressure sensor (TPS) with a compatible one for the car. However, my TPS
> programmers don't seem to work on these after market sensors (they still
> can program all the OEM sensors.)
>
> I spent a bunch of time on support lines with the Schader sensors and the=
y
> say that use an open standard, but every TPS programmer I asked them abou=
t
> 'isn't supported." (Note, I have 3 different ones.) To make it worse,
> they can't tell me which ones WILL work, I just have to ask them and they
> can answer yes or no.
>
> Now, the programmers I have are cheap amazon ones, so it could be they
> aren't up to date.
>
> So, what is a GOOD comprehensive TPS programmer I can buy that should do
> most sensors?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Moose
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<div dir=3D"ltr">IMO, I ignore the damned things, at least as far as=C2=A0r=
eplacing them, unless one is leaking. I've been quoted around $120/each=
to replace them. That said, I'll offer good odds that pretty much ever=
ybody in this group keeps an eye on tire pressure. As a rule of thumb tire =
pressure varies around=C2=A02 PSI with a 10 degree change in ambient=C2=A0t=
emperature.<div><br></div><div>I have my tires balanced and rotated every 5=
K and that's worked out well. Getting ready to replace the tires on our=
2015 Odyssey, which seems like it eats tires. Can't remember what I pa=
id for the last set (Yokohama YK-CTX) at that time, nor do I remember the m=
ileage=C2=A0on the van when I bought them, but I can find out. Discount has=
them for $202, plus the usual add-ons. Discount also has the Michelin Defe=
nder 2 with a considerably=C2=A0longer service life, for $211 through Febru=
ary, so I plan to buy those this time around.</div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 8:36=E2=80=AFAM Old Dirtbeard <<a href=3D"mailto:d=
irtbeard@live.com">dirtbeard@live.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg-8098392917260077496"=
>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Same problems here, Moose. I have reduced/stopped tire rotations as a resul=
t. Not a good response, I know...</div>
<div id=3D"m_-8098392917260077496Signature">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
best,</div>
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<p style=3D"direction:ltr;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em">
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12p=
t;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span></p>
<p style=3D"direction:ltr;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em">
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12p=
t;color:rgb(0,0,0)">doug</span></p>
</div>
</div>
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<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_-8098392917260077496divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"C=
alibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b>=
Shop-talk <<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of <a href=
=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com"; target=3D"_blank">eric@megageek.com</a> <<=
a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com"; target=3D"_blank">eric@megageek.com</a>=
><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 30, 2026 5:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">Sh=
op-talk@autox.team.net</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] TSP Sensors</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">OK, it seems to =
be happening more and more these days.=C2=A0 I replace a tire pressure sens=
or (TPS) with a compatible one for the car. However, my TPS programmers don=
't seem to work on these after market
sensors (they still can program all the OEM sensors.)</span> <br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I spent a bunch of ti=
me on support lines with the Schader sensors and they say that use an open =
standard, but every TPS programmer I asked them about 'isn't suppor=
ted." =C2=A0(Note, I have 3 different ones.) =C2=A0To
make it worse, they can't tell me which ones WILL work, I just have to=
ask them and they can answer yes or no.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Now, the programmers =
I have are cheap amazon ones, so it could be they aren't up to date.</s=
pan>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">So, what is a GOOD co=
mprehensive TPS programmer I can buy that should do most sensors?</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Thanks in advance.</s=
pan> <br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Moose</span> </div>
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