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I could misunderstand the situation, but if B&T is in place, there would be
no ground at the sink for the GFI to work unless you ran a separate ground
to the cold water supply line or something similar assuming it is grounded.
On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 10:56=E2=80=AFAM Jimmie Mayfield <
mayfield+shoptalk@sackheads.org> wrote:
> The fly in the ointment is the k&t wiring. Will a GFI or AFI breaker wor=
k
> reliably with k&t?
>
> J
>
>
> On 2/1/25 11:36, Jim Franklin wrote:
>
> If you shut off the breaker, confirm there is no voltage on the output
> side of it, and test for continuity between the breaker output and ground=
,
> you should get a good idea if the breaker is actually doing its job, i.e.
> there's short somewhere. If you don't see continuity, it's an unknown, in
> which case I'd replace it with a GFI breaker (since you want to do that
> anyway) and see what happens.
>
> jim
>
> On Feb 1, 2025, at 11:03 AM, Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
> <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> The breaker that controls my sink grinder's outlet seems to have failed.
> It won't reset.
>
> It is simply a matter of replacing the breaker with a new one or might
> there be another issue in the circuit? Near as I can tell that breaker on=
ly
> has one outlet on it. (house was built in 1905 or so and still has active
> knob and tube. ffs. And there are at least four breakers controlling our
> tiny kitchen.) Also, the outlet is not GFI so I want to replace it but
> can't really fit under the sink to do it.
>
> So, can I just replace the breaker or should I bite the bullet and call
> and electrician?
>
> Thanks
> tim
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I c=
ould misunderstand the situation, but if B&T is in place, there would b=
e no ground at the sink for the GFI to work unless you ran a separate groun=
d to the cold water supply line or something similar assuming it is grounde=
d.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 10:56=E2=80=AFAM Jimmi=
e Mayfield <<a href=3D"mailto:mayfield%2Bshoptalk@sackheads.org";>mayfiel=
d+shoptalk@sackheads.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
=20
=20
=20
<div>
<div>The fly in the ointment is the k&t
wiring.=C2=A0 Will a GFI or AFI breaker work reliably with k&t?<b=
r>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>J</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>On 2/1/25 11:36, Jim Franklin wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
If you shut off the breaker, confirm there is no voltage on the
output side of it, and test for continuity between the breaker
output and ground, you should get a good idea if the breaker is
actually doing its job, i.e. there's short somewhere. If you don&=
#39;t
see continuity, it's an unknown, in which case I'd replace it=
with
a GFI breaker (since you want to do that anyway) and see what
happens.=C2=A0
<div><br>
</div>
<div>jim<br>
<div><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>On Feb 1, 2025, at 11:03 AM, Tim .
<a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank"><tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com></a> wrote:</div>
<br>
<div>
=20
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font=
-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-tra=
nsform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-f=
amily:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">The
breaker that controls my sink grinder's outlet seems to
have failed. It won't reset.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font=
-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-tra=
nsform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-f=
amily:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font=
-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-tra=
nsform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-f=
amily:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">It
is simply a matter of replacing the breaker with a new
one or might there be another issue in the circuit? Near
as I can tell that breaker only has one outlet on it.
(house was built in 1905 or so and still has active knob
and tube. ffs. And there are at least four breakers
controlling our tiny kitchen.) Also, the outlet is not
GFI so I want to replace it but can't really fit under
the sink to do it.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font=
-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-tra=
nsform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-f=
amily:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font=
-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-tra=
nsform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-f=
amily:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">So,
can I just replace the breaker or should I bite the
bullet and call and electrician?</div>
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