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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Inexpensive OBD-II Scanner
From: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2024 16:26:10 -0400
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I have an Innova 5610 which is a medium  pricery scanner, but with cost =
comes greater capability.  I bit the bullet and bought this scanner when =
I had mutable codes come up on my BMW Z4.  The scanner picked up all the =
codes and allowed me to do the repairs myself.  Since then the 5410 has =
identified codes and, once repaired, erase them. Innova also has =
excellent customer support by very knowledgeable techs.  I=E2=80=99ve =
saved the cost of the scanner a couple of times over at this point on =
repairs I was able to identify and repair. Also, Innova  does periodic =
firmware updates. The Harbor freight Zurich 15s that Brian refers to =
looks suspiciously like the Innova 5610=E2=80=A6
        Best,
        Bob

> On Feb 3, 2024, at 2:09=E2=80=AFPM, Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net> =
wrote:
>=20
> As a basic scanner, I have an older version of this:
> https://www.harborfreight.com/obd-ii-code-reader-64981.html
>=20
> Read and reset codes on several cars.  Helped me understand (with =
internet research) if the code was something I could resolve or =
something the dealer needed to address.  Paid about $35, similar to the =
above reader.  You do have to drill down on menus because there are only =
two buttons.  Pay $60 and you can get more buttons and a more detailed =
display so the reader is likely to be easier to use.
>=20
> If you go up to the $320 reader, grab the coupon from =
https://www.harborfreight.com/coupons to save some money.
>=20
> Brian
>=20
> On 2/3/2024 9:08 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:
>> I have a 2012 Ford F-150 that throws a code.  It's been to the dealer =
and repaired, then it threw the code again 5 months 3000 miles later.  =
The dealer had it for a week and reset it and couldn't find a fault.  =
Now, another 1500 miles and it's come back.
>>=20
>> N.B. Changing the battery also threw a code (the light went off after =
driving for a while, but it still shows on the scanner).
>>=20
>> I have a few suggestions to try and fix it, but I'm looking for =
something to read and reset the codes with.  I can get my FLAPS to read =
it, but they are reluctant to reset it sometimes.  I see readers on =
Amazon for $15 and up, but I'm willing to pay for a quality tool as long =
as it isn't stupid expensive.
>>=20
>> Any suggestions?
>>=20
>> Jeff the S
>> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>>=20
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>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div =
dir=3D"auto" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; line-break: after-white-space;">I have an Innova 5610 which is a =
medium &nbsp;pricery scanner, but with cost comes greater capability. =
&nbsp;I bit the bullet and bought this scanner when I had mutable codes =
come up on my BMW Z4. &nbsp;The scanner picked up all the codes and =
allowed me to do the repairs myself. &nbsp;Since then the 5410 has =
identified codes and, once repaired, erase them. Innova also has =
excellent customer support by very knowledgeable techs. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99ve=
 saved the cost of the scanner a couple of times over at this point on =
repairs I was able to identify and repair. Also, Innova &nbsp;does =
periodic firmware updates. The Harbor freight Zurich 15s that Brian =
refers to looks suspiciously like the Innova 5610=E2=80=A6</div><div =
dir=3D"auto" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; line-break: after-white-space;"><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">      </span>Best,</div><div dir=3D"auto" =
style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
line-break: after-white-space;"><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">      </span>Bob<br =
id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Feb 3, 2024, at 2:09=E2=80=AFPM, Brian Kemp =
&lt;bk13@earthlink.net&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset=3D"UTF-8"><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;">As a basic scanner, I have an older version =
of this:</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><a =
href=3D"https://www.harborfreight.com/obd-ii-code-reader-64981.html"; =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;">https://www.harborfreight.com/obd-ii-code-reader-64981.html</a><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;">Read and reset codes on several cars.&nbsp; =
Helped me understand (with internet research) if the code was something =
I could resolve or something the dealer needed to address.&nbsp; Paid =
about $35, similar to the above reader.&nbsp; You do have to drill down =
on menus because there are only two buttons.&nbsp; Pay $60 and you can =
get more buttons and a more detailed display so the reader is likely to =
be easier to use.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">If you =
go up to the $320 reader, grab the coupon from<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><a =
href=3D"https://www.harborfreight.com/coupons"; style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;">https://www.harborfreight.com/coupons</a><span style=3D"caret-color:=
 rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;"><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>to save some =
money.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Brian</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;">On 2/3/2024 9:08 AM, Jeff Scarbrough =
wrote:</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;">I have a 2012 Ford F-150 that throws a =
code.&nbsp; It's been to the dealer and repaired, then it threw the code =
again 5 months 3000 miles later.&nbsp; The dealer had it for a week and =
reset it and couldn't find a fault.&nbsp; Now, another 1500 miles and =
it's come back.<br><br>N.B. Changing the battery also threw a code (the =
light went off after driving for a while, but it still shows on the =
scanner).<br><br>I have a few suggestions to try and fix it, but I'm =
looking for something to read and reset the codes with.&nbsp; I can get =
my FLAPS to read it, but they are reluctant to reset it sometimes.&nbsp; =
I see readers on Amazon for $15 and up, but I'm willing to pay for a =
quality tool as long as it isn't stupid expensive.<br><br>Any =
suggestions?<br><br>Jeff the S<br>Corrosion Acres, =
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