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To: "John T. Blair" <jblair1948@cox.net> definitions=2021-07-30_11:2021-07-30, 2021-07-30 signatures=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2009150000 definitions=main-2107310023
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] power hatch opener/closers
From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 23:50:50 -0500
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All actuators I=E2=80=99ve seen have been screw & nut but I suppose there co=
uld be some kind of override to allow it to be opened or closed manually in a=
n emergency. I=E2=80=99ll have to look into that one.=20

You say it=E2=80=99s internet. In what way?

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Jul 30, 2021, at 10:42 PM, John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF=20
Gang,

You all were so great at my last question, I've got another one for you.

Anyone know how these power hatch opener & closers work?  A neighbor said sh=
e
went to pick something up and told the person putting it in the back of her S=
UV
NOT to close the hatch, she'd get it.  But the person grabbed the hatch and p=
ulled
it down.  Ever since it has been intermittant.

I went looking for any info I could find on how they work and I couldn't fin=
d=20
anything.  I was thinking there were linear actuactors.  But if that were th=
e case
I don't think they should have been able to close the hatch manually.  I tho=
ugh
a linear actuactor was basically a long bolt (all thread) attached to a moto=
r with a
nut that was attached to the item you wanted to more.  If that's the case, t=
hen
you shouldn't be able to force the hatch closed as the nut would not slide o=
n the=20
rod and the rod wouldn't turn to let the nut slide down.

So what's in those tubes?  =46rom what I can tell, one is an assist strut (I=
'm=20
assuming gas filled) and the other is the actual lifting/closing unit.

John



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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">All actuators I=E2=80=99ve seen have been s=
crew &amp; nut but I suppose there could be some kind of override to allow i=
t to be opened or closed manually in an emergency. I=E2=80=99ll have to look=
 into that one.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>You say it=E2=80=99s internet. In w=
hat way?</div><div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<br><br><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 30, 2021, at 10:42 PM, John T. Blair &lt;jb=
lair1948@cox.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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Gang,<br><br>
You all were so great at my last question, I've got another one for
you.<br><br>
Anyone know how these power hatch opener &amp; closers work?&nbsp; A
neighbor said she<br>
went to pick something up and told the person putting it in the back of
her SUV<br>
NOT to close the hatch, she'd get it.&nbsp; But the person grabbed the
hatch and pulled<br>
it down.&nbsp; Ever since it has been intermittant.<br><br>
I went looking for any info I could find on how they work and I couldn't
find <br>
anything.&nbsp; I was thinking there were linear actuactors.&nbsp; But if
that were the case<br>
I don't think they should have been able to close the hatch
manually.&nbsp; I though<br>
a linear actuactor was basically a long bolt (all thread) attached to a
motor with a<br>
nut that was attached to the item you wanted to more.&nbsp; If that's the
case, then<br>
you shouldn't be able to force the hatch closed as the nut would not
slide on the <br>
rod and the rod wouldn't turn to let the nut slide down.<br><br>
So what's in those tubes?&nbsp; =46rom what I can tell, one is an assist
strut (I'm <br>
assuming gas filled) and the other is the actual lifting/closing
unit.<br><br>
John<br><br>
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<div>John T. Blair&nbsp; WA4OHZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; email:&nbsp;
jblair1948@cox.net</div>
<div>Va. Beach,
Va&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Phone:&nbsp; (757) 495-8229</div>
<br>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 48
TR1800&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 48 #4 Midget&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 65 Morgan 4/4
Series V (B1106)</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
77 Spitfire&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 71 Saab Sonett III</div>
<div>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
65 Rambler Classic</div>
<br>
<div>Morgan:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href=3D"http://www.team.net/morgan"; eudora=3D"AUTOURL">
www.team.net/morgan</a></div>
<div>Bricklin:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href=3D"http://www.bricklin.org/"; eudora=3D"AUTOURL">www.bricklin.org</a>=

</div>
<br>
<div>If you can read
this&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=

- Thank a teacher!</div>
<div>If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!!</div>
<br>
<div> =46rom Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy:</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; e pluribus Unum, "from many,
one."</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In God We Trust</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Liberty - the&nbsp; power&nbsp; of&nbsp;
choosing,&nbsp; thinking,&nbsp; and&nbsp; acting&nbsp; for&nbsp; </div>
<div>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
oneself; freedom&nbsp; from&nbsp; control&nbsp; or&nbsp;
restriction&nbsp; </div>
<br>
<br>

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