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One other thing: most headsets using regular batteries are unregulated. They=
will continue to put out light way past the point the batteries would be de=
ad in another application. It won=E2=80=99t be much light, but it is still o=
n. Try it with fresh batteries. I run into this myself from time to time, a=
nd I know it happens, because it happens gradually.=20
> On Mar 16, 2021, at 11:57, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF That is a good point(s). A lot of the descriptions seemed slante=
d towards running in the dark--I don't do that, unless someone's chasing me-=
-and doing realistic things in a shop is kind of an afterthought.
> I tried using what appears to be a decent-quality headset--brand unknown--=
but there just wasn't enough illumination when I was in the grease pit looki=
ng for a socket and extension I'd dropped into the engine bay. I had to reso=
rt to using a small (2AA) LED flashlight, which was the right amount of ligh=
t but, obviously, wasn't convenient to use when I found the socket and neede=
d two hands to retrieve it. Glare isn't a huge issue looking into an engine b=
ay; at least, on my mostly stock cars without chrome everything.
>=20
>=20
> On 3/16/2021 9:19 AM, David Scheidt wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 23:30, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF Listers,
>>>=20
>>> After realizing that holding a small flashlight with my teeth was probab=
ly a bad idea (and painful), I decided I needed a good headband flashlight. I=
have a couple cheap ones, but they never seem to put out enough light for w=
orking on cars in a dark shop or in the grease pit. I see people using them o=
n the tube, and they seem to work, but the two I have--both powered by a cou=
ple AAAs--aren't even as powerful as the cheap flashlights Harbor Freight gi=
ves away (which work a couple times then quit).
>>>=20
>>=20
>> I have a couple cheap ones I bought at Home Depot, from the Father=E2=80=99=
s Day special stuff at the front oy the store. They have lasted several yea=
rs, but of course, have never been available since.=20
>>=20
>> My opinion about headlamps in the shop and for home improvement stuff is t=
hat about 150 lumens is enough, more than that, you blind yourself with refl=
ection and glare. You also want a pretty floody b=C3=A9am spread, because i=
t makes it easier t w on stuff you can=E2=80=99t quite see straight on. I al=
so o strongly prefer lights that split the battery from the light. They are m=
ore comfortable, stay on better, and don=E2=80=99t stick out as far, so you d=
on=E2=80=99t hit them on stuff. I also prefer regular batteries, because yo=
u can carry spares, and don=E2=80=99t need a special charger. (I use NiMh ce=
lls, not throwaway ones). =20
>>=20
>> This is a different use case than what campers or divers or trail runners=
want, which is something to watch out for. =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">One other thing: most head=
sets using regular batteries are unregulated. They will continue to put out l=
ight way past the point the batteries would be dead in another application. I=
t won=E2=80=99t be much light, but it is still on. Try it with fresh batteri=
es. I run into this myself from time to time, and I know it happens, b=
ecause it happens gradually. </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite">On Mar 16, 2021, at 11:57, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net&g=
t; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">=EF=BB=BF
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>
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That is a good point(s). A lot of the descriptions seemed slanted
towards running in the dark--I don't do that, unless someone's
chasing me--and doing realistic things in a shop is kind of an
afterthought.<br>
I tried using what appears to be a decent-quality headset--brand
unknown--but there just wasn't enough illumination when I was in the
grease pit looking for a socket and extension I'd dropped into the
engine bay. I had to resort to using a small (2AA) LED flashlight,
which was the right amount of light but, obviously, wasn't
convenient to use when I found the socket and needed two hands to
retrieve it. Glare isn't a huge issue looking into an engine bay; at
least, on my mostly stock cars without chrome everything.<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 3/16/2021 9:19 AM, David Scheidt
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:2FCCF138-4CDA-4E0B-8429-0561F92DA0=
C5@gmail.com">
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8">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 15, 2021, at 23:30, Bob Spidell
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast=
.net"><bspidell@comcast.net></a> wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html;
charset=3DUTF-8">
Listers,<br>
<br>
After realizing that holding a small flashlight with my teeth
was probably a bad idea (and painful), I decided I needed a <i>goo=
d</i>
headband flashlight. I have a couple cheap ones, but they
never seem to put out enough light for working on cars in a
dark shop or in the grease pit. I see people using them on the
tube, and they seem to work, but the two I have--both powered
by a couple AAAs--aren't even as powerful as the cheap
flashlights Harbor Freight gives away (which work a couple
times then quit).</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<div>I have a couple cheap ones I bought at Home Depot, from the
Father=E2=80=99s Day special stuff at the front oy the store. =
They have
lasted several years, but of course, have never been available
since. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My opinion about headlamps in the shop and for home
improvement stuff is that about 150 lumens is enough, more than
that, you blind yourself with reflection and glare. You also
want a pretty floody b=C3=A9am spread, because it makes it easier t w=
on stuff you can=E2=80=99t quite see straight on. I also o strongly
prefer lights that split the battery from the light. They are
more comfortable, stay on better, and don=E2=80=99t stick out as far=
, so
you don=E2=80=99t hit them on stuff. I also prefer regular bat=
teries,
because you can carry spares, and don=E2=80=99t need a special charg=
er.
(I use NiMh cells, not throwaway ones). </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This is a different use case than what campers or divers or
trail runners want, which is something to watch out for. </div=
>
</blockquote>
<br>
=20
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