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Re: [Shop-talk] LED Headlamps

To: David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] LED Headlamps
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 09:57:23 -0700
Cc: Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
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That is a good point(s). A lot of the descriptions seemed slanted 
towards running in the dark--I don't do that, unless someone's chasing 
me--and doing realistic things in a shop is kind of an afterthought.

I tried using what appears to be a decent-quality headset--brand 
unknown--but there just wasn't enough illumination when I was in the 
grease pit looking for a socket and extension I'd dropped into the 
engine bay. I had to resort to using a small (2AA) LED flashlight, which 
was the right amount of light but, obviously, wasn't convenient to use 
when I found the socket and needed two hands to retrieve it. Glare isn't 
a huge issue looking into an engine bay; at least, on my mostly stock 
cars without chrome everything.


On 3/16/2021 9:19 AM, David Scheidt wrote:
>
>
>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 23:30, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Listers,
>>
>> After realizing that holding a small flashlight with my teeth was 
>> probably a bad idea (and painful), I decided I needed a /good/ 
>> headband flashlight. I have a couple cheap ones, but they never seem 
>> to put out enough light for working on cars in a dark shop or in the 
>> grease pit. I see people using them on the tube, and they seem to 
>> work, but the two I have--both powered by a couple AAAs--aren't even 
>> as powerful as the cheap flashlights Harbor Freight gives away (which 
>> work a couple times then quit).
>>
>
> I have a couple cheap ones I bought at Home Depot, from the Fatherâ??s 
> Day special stuff at the front oy the store.  They have lasted several 
> years, but of course, have never been available since.
>
> My opinion about headlamps in the shop and for home improvement stuff 
> is that about 150 lumens is enough, more than that, you blind yourself 
> with reflection and glare.  You also want a pretty floody béam spread, 
> because it makes it easier t w on stuff you canâ??t quite see straight 
> on. I also o strongly prefer lights that split the battery from the 
> light. They are more comfortable, stay on better, and donâ??t stick out 
> as far, so you donâ??t hit them on stuff.  I also prefer regular 
> batteries, because you can carry spares, and donâ??t need a special 
> charger. (I use NiMh cells, not throwaway ones).
>
> This is a different use case than what campers or divers or trail 
> runners want, which is something to watch out for.


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    That is a good point(s). A lot of the descriptions seemed slanted
    towards running in the dark--I don't do that, unless someone's
    chasing me--and doing realistic things in a shop is kind of an
    afterthought.<br>
    <br>
    I tried using what appears to be a decent-quality headset--brand
    unknown--but there just wasn't enough illumination when I was in the
    grease pit looking for a socket and extension I'd dropped into the
    engine bay. I had to resort to using a small (2AA) LED flashlight,
    which was the right amount of light but, obviously, wasn't
    convenient to use when I found the socket and needed two hands to
    retrieve it. Glare isn't a huge issue looking into an engine bay; at
    least, on my mostly stock cars without chrome everything.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/16/2021 9:19 AM, David Scheidt
      wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote type="cite">On Mar 15, 2021, at 23:30, Bob Spidell
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>&lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
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          Listers,<br>
          <br>
          After realizing that holding a small flashlight with my teeth
          was probably a bad idea (and painful), I decided I needed a 
<i>good</i>
          headband flashlight. I have a couple cheap ones, but they
          never seem to put out enough light for working on cars in a
          dark shop or in the grease pit. I see people using them on the
          tube, and they seem to work, but the two I have--both powered
          by a couple AAAs--aren't even as powerful as the cheap
          flashlights Harbor Freight gives away (which work a couple
          times then quit).</div>
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      <blockquote type="cite">
        <div dir="ltr"><br>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
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      <div>I have a couple cheap ones I bought at Home Depot, from the
        Fatherâ??s Day special stuff at the front oy the store.  They have
        lasted several years, but of course, have never been available
        since. </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>My opinion about headlamps in the shop and for home
        improvement stuff is that about 150 lumens is enough, more than
        that, you blind yourself with reflection and glare.  You also
        want a pretty floody béam spread, because it makes it easier t w
        on stuff you canâ??t quite see straight on. I also o strongly
        prefer lights that split the battery from the light. They are
        more comfortable, stay on better, and donâ??t stick out as far, so
        you donâ??t hit them on stuff.  I also prefer regular batteries,
        because you can carry spares, and donâ??t need a special charger.
        (I use NiMh cells, not throwaway ones).   </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>This is a different use case than what campers or divers or
        trail runners want, which is something to watch out for.  </div>
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