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Re: 220v circuit in garage

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Subject: Re: 220v circuit in garage
From: Harry Phinney <harry@hpcvxhp.cv.hp.com>
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:47:08 -0700
Michael Leach wrote:

> So back to my question, if you have only 200amp service then you have
> problems?  Does this mean you need two electric meters from the power
> company (i.e. two services).  Or do they just rip out the main 200amp
> main breaker add a 300 or 400amp breaker and jack up the power to your
> house from the transformer on the pole?

I suspect it depends on factors such as local building codes, and the
state of the existing electrical service.  I recently added a reasonably
large attached garage/shop to my house.  The local building code
required that there be only one service entrance (maybe they're afraid
of illicit duplexes), so I asked the power company about my options.  A
power company rep came out and took a look (before any construction had
begun), and advised that the existing transformer and (underground)
service lines were sufficient to support 400A service, so "all" I needed
to do was to replace the existing meter base with a 400A
disconnect/meter, and wire both the existing house breaker panel and the
new garage/shop panel as sub-panels (i.e.  install 4-wire runs from the
disconnect/meter to both of those panels).  Now, I'm not entirely
convinced that either the transformer or the service wire will _really_
support 400A, but that's their claim and if there's a problem, it's
PP&L's problem, not mine (yes, everything was permitted and inspected).

> Does the tranformer have enough
> amperage to supply your house and your neigbors house (i.e they usually
> share transformers between two houses) and your shop?

Again, this will likely vary by locale and age of installation.  The
newer installations in this area appear to dedicate a transformer to
each residence.

> The moral to this story is I don't
> beleive any one person shop is going to ever match what my friend has
> accomplished with one 200amp service.

The worst-case load I considered was:

  electric force-air heat on (Natural Gas is not an option for me)
  22A ("5 hp") Compressor on (due to minor air leaks and/or catch-up)
  50A welder on
  lights

I got very tired of switching between the welder and compressor in my
previous shop.  I figured 100A would be enough, but there wasn't a
significant cost difference between a 100A panel and a 200A panel
installation after the service entrance upgrade.

Harry Phinney   harry@cv.hp.com

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