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What a pity Mike.
Most times such a switch begins to give issues, it is either dirt contamina=
ted in the switch mechanism of lack of lubrication.
The hazard switch is hardly or impossible to dismantle without risk of brea=
king it down.
So I wish you luck with the Chinese variant.
I have a Chinese variant of brake light switch installed last year.
I wonder how long that will last=E2=80=A6
I was able to dismantle the fan switch, which was rock solid in one positio=
n when I bought the car.
As that is a safety test failure this had to be fixed anyway.
Dismantling went well. Applied a little grease to the moving parts and it s=
till works after 24 years!
Beware for tiny bits falling out when dismantling the switch.
Cheers,
Hans 71 BGT
Van: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>
Verzonden: Thursday, 21 April 2022 00:58
Aan: h.duinhoven@planet.nl; mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals
Hans,
I tried flipping the switch afew times, but on the second flip the swi=
tch broke up internally in pieces and jammed the rocker switch. Won't move=
in any direction now. Just received a replacement switch from Moss today.=
Unfortunately it is made in China. Hope it lasts more than a year.
Mike MacLean
planet.nl> > wrote:
The hazard switch in my 1971 BGT has been causing this issue from time to t=
ime.
Flipping this hazard switch several times helped to cure this till now.
Cheers,
Hans
71 BGT
Namens Michael MacLean
Verzonden: Monday, 18 April 2022 02:31
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals
I very much appreciate the help from the list with my turn signal problem. =
This is to let you know, I think I know what the problem is. After lookin=
g at the wiring diagram in Rick Astley's book (MGB Electrical Systems) I no=
ticed the turn signals are wired through the hazard switch. Just before th=
e turn signals quit I was showing a friend the dash. I was showing him wha=
t switches worked and which didn't. One of the switches that has never wo=
rked was the hazard switch. I clicked it back and forth to show him. Righ=
t after that the turn signals quit. Until I looked at the wiring diagram I=
did not put it together. I just went out to the car to see if I rocked th=
e switch back and forth maybe the turn signals would start working. Instea=
d the switch broke internally and refused to move. It lasted 52 years. N=
o complaints. I have ordered a new switch from Moss. We'll see if that fi=
xes it. I might even get hazard flashers out of it too.
Mike MacLean
gbobh@gmail.com> > wrote:
A dog saboteur, perhaps?
I would start at the basics, cleaning bulb contacts and ensuring th=
at power is getting to each filament. Check that the earth wires, if pres=
ent, are earthing.
Then review the connections of wires to the fuses, and test each fu=
se is good by measuring power through it. It=E2=80=99s possible to seem OK=
with ohmmeter yet have insufficient current to light the lights.
Bob
> On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com =
>
> Last week the turn signals in the 69 MGB GT just stopped working. I have=
replaced the flasher unit. I know it is getting power because it audibly =
makes a clicking sound when I flip the turn signal stalk. I checked the fu=
ses, both are good. I checked the incandescent bulbs in the front and they=
were OK. The rear turn signals are LED and quite new. I'm kind of at a l=
oss here. They were working when I stopped the car at the dog park and the=
just weren't working when I started the car back up. Anything else I can =
check here?
> Mike MacLean
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What a pity =
Mike.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Most times such a switch begins to =
give issues, it is either dirt contaminated in the switch mechanism of =
lack of lubrication.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The hazard switch is =
hardly or impossible to dismantle without risk of breaking it =
down.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>So I wish you luck with the Chinese =
variant. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have a Chinese variant of brake =
light switch installed last year.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I wonder how long that will =
last=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I was able to dismantle the fan =
switch, which was rock solid in one position when I bought the =
car.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>As that is a safety test failure =
this had to be fixed anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dismantling went well. Applied a =
little grease to the moving parts and it still works after 24 =
years!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Beware for tiny bits falling out =
when dismantling the switch.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hans 71 BGT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>Van:</b> Michael MacLean =
<springer.mike51@gmail.com> <br><b>Verzonden:</b> Thursday, 21 =
April 2022 00:58<br><b>Aan:</b> h.duinhoven@planet.nl; =
mgs@autox.team.net<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] No Turn =
Signals<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hans,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> I tried flipping the switch =
afew times, but on the second flip the switch broke up internally in =
pieces and jammed the rocker switch. Won't move in any direction =
now. Just received a replacement switch from Moss today. =
Unfortunately it is made in China. Hope it lasts more than a =
year.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Mike =
MacLean<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 9:48 AM <<a =
href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";>h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>The hazard switch in my 1971 BGT has been causing this =
issue from time to time.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Flipping this hazard switch several times helped to cure =
this till now. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Hans</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>71 BGT</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Van:</b> =
Mgs <<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>Namens =
</b>Michael MacLean<br><b>Verzonden:</b> Monday, 18 April 2022 =
02:31<br><b>Aan:</b> Robert's New iPad <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] =
No Turn Signals<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I very much =
appreciate the help from the list with my turn signal problem. =
This is to let you know, I think I know what the problem is. After =
looking at the wiring diagram in Rick Astley's book (MGB Electrical =
Systems) I noticed the turn signals are wired through the hazard =
switch. Just before the turn signals quit I was showing a friend =
the dash. I was showing him what switches worked and which =
didn't. One of the switches that has never worked was the =
hazard switch. I clicked it back and forth to show him. =
Right after that the turn signals quit. Until I looked at the =
wiring diagram I did not put it together. I just went out to the =
car to see if I rocked the switch back and forth maybe the turn signals =
would start working. Instead the switch broke internally and =
refused to move. It lasted 52 years. No =
complaints. I have ordered a new switch from Moss. We'll see =
if that fixes it. I might even get hazard flashers out of it =
too.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mike =
MacLean<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sun, Apr =
17, 2022, 4:32 AM Robert's New iPad <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> =
A dog saboteur, perhaps? <br> =
I would start at the basics, cleaning bulb contacts and ensuring =
that power is getting to each filament. Check that the earth =
wires, if present, are earthing.<br> Then =
review the connections of wires to the fuses, and test each fuse is good =
by measuring power through it. It=E2=80=99s possible to seem OK =
with ohmmeter yet have insufficient current to light the lights. =
<br>Bob<br><br><br>> On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael MacLean =
<<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">springer.mike51@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> =
<br>> Last week the turn signals in the 69 MGB GT just stopped =
working. I have replaced the flasher unit. I know it is =
getting power because it audibly makes a clicking sound when I flip the =
turn signal stalk. I checked the fuses, both are good. I =
checked the incandescent bulbs in the front and they were OK. The =
rear turn signals are LED and quite new. I'm kind of at a loss =
here. They were working when I stopped the car at the dog park and =
the just weren't working when I started the car back up. Anything =
else I can check here?<br>> Mike MacLean<br>> =
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